DC resident shoots, kills 13-year-old boy, says teen was breaking into cars: police

[Sunrise]

What?

No 90 days in the cooler before bail?

Hmmmmm.

Jason Lewis ordered released ahead of Karon Blake trial

Lewis, a longtime D.C. employee, was indicted by a grand jury on second-degree murder charges earlier this month

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"The defendant is presumed innocent even though a substantial probability has been found," Epstein said.

Epstein said the prosecution did not prove that Lewis was a danger to society, and there was no clear or compelling evidence that Lewis would act as a vigilante.

He said the fact that when police arrived at the scene of the shooting, Lewis was reportedly giving chest compressions to Blake weighed substantially in his favor.

How about that.... Maybe I should reconsider my prior view on this.

 

[outrider58]

How about that.... Maybe I should reconsider my prior view on this.

I'm confused. What was your prior view?

 

[Sunrise]

I'm confused. What was your prior view?

That I would not give CPR in a self-defense shoot because it may put me in a vulnerable position if there are additional attackers and expose me to bodily fluids/pathogens.

Turns out that giving CPR weighed substantially in this guy's favor for his release ahead of trial. Who knew....

 

[outrider58]

That I would not give CPR in a self-defense shoot because it may put me in a vulnerable position if there are additional attackers and expose me to bodily fluids/pathogens.

Turns out that giving CPR weighed substantially in this guy's favor for his release ahead of trial. Who knew....

Ah! That clears it up in my mind, thanks. I was actually thinking along a different line.
Me, not being a public servant, should not feel compelled to render assistance to someone I just shot. Recognizing that I had just shot a youngster, I might feel compelled to help the person, once the scene felt secure.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Andy should have tried to resuscitate the holes he made in that bumper.

 

[Sunrise]

Ah! That clears it up in my mind, thanks. I was actually thinking along a different line.
Me, not being a public servant, should not feel compelled to render assistance to someone I just shot. Recognizing that I had just shot a youngster, I might feel compelled to help the person, once the scene felt secure.

Sure thing. I would normally never want to get near someone I shot to render aid because of the personal safety risk and the infection risk, but maybe I should add a pair of latex gloves to my EDC kit for the remote possibility that it could happen. Looks like it got this guy release though.... until they ultimately throw the book at him.

 

[Sunrise]

Andy should have tried to resuscitate the holes he made in that bumper.

Oh man....

Beyond the "why" of it, I still have no idea what he was aiming at.

 

[outrider58]

Sure thing. I would normally never want to get near someone I shot to render aid because of the personal safety risk and the infection risk, but maybe I should add a pair of latex gloves to my EDC kit for the remote possibility that it could happen. Looks like it got this guy release though.... until they ultimately throw the book at him.

And a real tourniquet. The life you save, might be your own.

 

[Tungsten]

Turns out that giving CPR weighed substantially in this guy's favor for his release ahead of trial. Who knew....

Hmmmm.... if I shot someone, I can then perform CPR on them thus increasing the blood squirting out of them and ensuring their death.... and then use that action to reduce the State's persecution of me.
Doesn't really make logical sense to me, but then again nothing in this dumbass country has made sense lately.

 

[Biggfoot44]

That I would not give CPR in a self-defense shoot because it may put me in a vulnerable position if there are additional attackers and expose me to bodily fluids/pathogens.

OR hypothetically , the Shootee is playing possum or exagerating their injuries to get the defender to come within range to attack . Or was momentarily stunned , and upon coming back around , would resume the attack that got them shot in the first place .

 

[JRisBundyboyz]

The parents should be held liable. This is dereliction of parental duty. My son is 16 and there is no way in hell I would even allow him to be out in the streets at 4am - and he knows I mean business.

I remember being 16, just wait a little longer. :-)

 

[teratos]

OR hypothetically , the Shootee is playing possum or exagerating their injuries to get the defender to come within range to attack . Or was momentarily stunned , and upon coming back around , would resume the attack that got them shot in the first place .

Or is actually an alien, impervious to all but kryptonite bullets, which MD outlawed.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Good one , I chuckled .

But suspects immobile , but fighting at close range , or faking is a real thing .

Absolutely , quickly call for backup and EMS , in as many ways as possible .

 

[teratos]

Good one , I chuckled .

But suspects immobile , but fighting at close range , or faking is a real thing .

Absolutely , quickly call for backup and EMS , in as many ways as possible .

Kick him in the nuts. If he doesn't flinch, render aid.

I think there are too many scenarios to account for. Each would be different. Some folks will be obviously incapacitated, but your point is taken.

 

[John from MD]

I remember being 16, just wait a little longer. :-)

I had to be in at 1100 or else until I enlisted in the military.

 

[rseymorejr]

So

Andy should have tried to resuscitate the holes he made in that bumper.

So, you're saying we need to carry bondo in our first aid kits now?

 

[Biggfoot44]

Kick him in the nuts. If he doesn't flinch, render aid.

Kicking in the nuts is rude , plus brings you too close from him to potentially kick you .

You tap them on the bottom of the feet , preferably with a baton . Gives maximum distance from them kicking out , but unlikely to cause injury . Not just in this context , but for the unresponsive Residentially Challenged .. When you have to check if they're just normally sacked out , or sick or OD'ed in need of medical attention .

 

[jc1240]

These lawyers warn about rendering aid. Prosecutor could twist it to "consciousness of guilt" for example. Don't render aid - you are a heartless monster. I think regardless of helping or not helping, it depends on the luck of the draw with judge and jury.

 

[Sunrise]

What a fvcking loser excuse for a “mother”! “Would it make you happy if it was 4PM?” That’s your answer?

Black, Hispanic students disproportionately suspended for ‘disrespect,’ MCPS data shows

Despite making up 55% of the MCPS student population, Black and Hispanic/Latine students continue to account for the majority of suspensions.

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Despite making up around 55% of the Montgomery County Public School student population, Black and Hispanic/Latine students accounted for 83.1% of all school suspensions for disrespect, disruption and insubordination over the 2021-22 school year, according to data in the school district’s 2022-25 strategic plan. That’s 14 percentage points higher than the previous school year.

Lord of the Flies.

These problems start at home and the youth bring them to school and other places.

 

[Sunrise]

OR hypothetically , the Shootee is playing possum or exagerating their injuries to get the defender to come within range to attack . Or was momentarily stunned , and upon coming back around , would resume the attack that got them shot in the first place .

That's very possible. The more I think about it, the less I'd want to do CPR for a Shootee. Hopefully I can substitute calling 911 or having bystanders do it which makes a good impression on a Judge.