DE Magazine Ban

[Blacksmith101]

This is why everyone on the Eastern Shore gets a Utah Nonresident. You're covered.

Maine also works.

 

[GunJunkie91]

Nope.

And internet sales websites are already restricting DE like MD over the years. Won't ship.

PSA won't ship uppers or mags to DE.

WV won't even sell legal long guns to Maryland residents. And who could blame them. But tinfoil hat on lol, I think there is a lot of money being put into political campaigns dem or rep to eventually ban internet sales. I think they are forcing site to restrict state by state until there are like 10 left. Sorry for the tinfoil black pill.

 

[wpage]

Shipping costs for UPS and Fed Ex are going up over 5% soon. With the pace of law changes and Master Charge and Visa jacking their rates a point to retailers 10-1-23....

Can you blame these businesses for being cautious?

 

[delaware_export]

As noted in other threads, Rhode Island mag cap case heard today. You can check the RI threads for links. It’s in at least 2

 

[rbird7282]

WV won't even sell legal long guns to Maryland residents. And who could blame them. But tinfoil hat on lol, I think there is a lot of money being put into political campaigns dem or rep to eventually ban internet sales. I think they are forcing site to restrict state by state until there are like 10 left. Sorry for the tinfoil black pill.

Lol, since when?

 

[adit]

Oral arguments for the 3rd Circuit Appeal (of the consolidated cases) are tentatively scheduled for late January 2024.

The exact date has not been published yet. https://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/calendar

https://dssa.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/067-Granted-Joint-Stip-and-Order-Staying-Action-pending-Appeal93293623.1.pdf

 

[Pale Ryder]

Lol, since when?

Maybe at Walmart. Their policy is not to sell to out of state persons. Employee probably stated it as state law when in fact it is corporate policy.

 

[rbird7282]

Maybe at Walmart. Their policy is not to sell to out of state persons. Employee probably stated it as state law when in fact it is corporate policy.

Got it. Just another reason to not buy one from Walmart

 

[INMY01TA]

Maine also works.

Florida too Right?

 

[adit]

Florida too Right?

If you are talking about CCDW reciprocity then yes FL covers you.

Concealed Carry Deadly Weapons (CCDW) - Delaware Department of Justice - State of Delaware

Delaware Concealed Carry Deadly Weapons (CCDW) Reciprocity Information, Approved Instructors List, and the CCDW Instructor Portal can be found here.

attorneygeneral.delaware.gov

If you are talking about the magazine ban then NO you are NOT covered with a NR permit.

 

[INMY01TA]

If you are talking about CCDW reciprocity then yes FL covers you.

Concealed Carry Deadly Weapons (CCDW) - Delaware Department of Justice - State of Delaware

Delaware Concealed Carry Deadly Weapons (CCDW) Reciprocity Information, Approved Instructors List, and the CCDW Instructor Portal can be found here.

attorneygeneral.delaware.gov

If you are talking about the magazine ban then NO you are NOT covered with a NR permit.

Yes ccw reciprocity thank you.

 

[TaoHaus]

Just finished Day 1 of the MD CCW at Atlantic Tactical with RS. He and I got into a discussion about the new DE law. He felt DE CCW exemption didn't make it into the final signed bill. I pulled up the current updated code and it looks like it made it into the final signed bill. Therefore, anyone with a DE CCW is exempt from the greater than 17 round magazine ban. But, that also means non-DE residents cannot possess a greater than 17 round magazine in DE, since I don't believe DE issues non resident permits. Even with reciprocity, the exemption only applies to "permits issued by the Superior Court under § 1441 of this title."

Am I reading this right?

The privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution absolutely and unquestionably requires DE issue CCW permits to non-residents, like it or not.

 

[TaoHaus]

And they can’t

The privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution absolutely and unquestionably requires DE issue CCW permits to non-residents, like it or not.

And for the same reason, any law or permitting regime that allowed residents to have one permit and non-residents another, with the latter limited to lower capacity magazines than residents would not fly.

 

[adit]

The privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution absolutely and unquestionably requires DE issue CCW permits to non-residents, like it or not.

And they can’t

And for the same reason, any law or permitting regime that allowed residents to have one permit and non-residents another, with the latter limited to lower capacity magazines than residents would not fly.

And "shall not be infringed" means what it says, until it doesn't....

You must be new around firearms laws. There exists a plethora of difference in laws between Resident and Non-Resident permits across the USA.

 

[TaoHaus]

And "shall not be infringed" means what it says, until it doesn't....

You must be new around firearms laws. There exists a plethora of difference in laws between Resident and Non-Resident permits across the USA.

Haven’t tracked, but especially post-Bruen none of that will withstand scrutiny if challenged. May be new to gun carry laws, but have been licensed to practice for over 25 years (and was originally licensed in DE as it happens).

 

[Biggfoot44]

none of that will withstand scrutiny if challenged.

The key phrase right there ! With out being more snarky than necessary , it will stand until at least reaching 3rd Court of Appeals .

 

[adit]

Haven’t tracked, but especially post-Bruen none of that will withstand scrutiny if challenged. May be new to gun carry laws, but have been licensed to practice for over 25 years (and was originally licensed in DE as it happens).

Understood, but both Lefty Legislatures and Lefty Courts apparently could give 2 fvcks about post-Bruen 2A theory, as witnessed by many laws passed and court decisions since then.

 

[delaware_export]

Mag ban and awb hearing on march 11.

Per FPC Twitter feed

 

[offthepaper]

DSSA has already begun a campaign to file arguments in court. They have a pretty good track record but like most requires funding and time. Meanwhile, the shootings in Wilmington continue. No surprise there.
It's also my understanding that Magpul has a facility in Sussex County and will be leaving. More jobs lost due to unrealistic laws.

I would imagine that WV would welcome Magpul with open arms.
Beretta USA left Md a few years back because of similar politics, but is doing very well for themselves after relocating to Tennessee.

 

[adit]

I would imagine that WV would welcome Magpul with open arms.
Beretta USA left Md a few years back because of similar politics, but is doing very well for themselves after relocating to Tennessee.

DE Magazine Ban

Just finished Day 1 of the MD CCW at Atlantic Tactical with RS. He and I got into a discussion about the new DE law. He felt DE CCW exemption didn't make it into the final signed bill. I pulled up the current updated code and it looks like it made it into the final signed bill. Therefore...

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