Mr H
Unincited Co-Conservative
I can't do that. Ran out of my BP meds. lol
That's why I'm not on FB!!!
I can't do that. Ran out of my BP meds. lol
So how many of the 4 guests on this thread are from the State Attorney's orifice?
Guaranteed 'more than none' (up to 6 now)
Hi, Erin!!!!
You know what I really like about reading this decision? I can see Baron von Frosh saying all of this stupid stuff, and love watching the Circuit piss all over him.
Get a Bill in quick to repeal FSA2013, if passed, moot?
I would personally want this 4 th circuit opinion to stand, so I would be against this
For those interested in looking for a meaningful statement to express to their delegates in regards to current and future MD firearm legislation, I present this quote from the opinion. (pg. 45 of 90)
Our distinguished dissenting colleague asserts that we have imprudently and unnecessarily broken with our sister courts of appeal and infers that we will bear some responsibility for future mass shootings. In our view, inferences of this nature have no place in judicial opinions and we will not respond beyond noting this. The meaning of the Constitution does not depend on a popular vote of the circuits and it is neither improper nor imprudent for us to disagree with the other circuits addressing this issue. We are not a rubber stamp. We require strict scrutiny here not because it aligns with our personal policy preferences but because we believe it is compelled by the law set out in Heller and Chester.
Music to my years...
That give me a BIG grin.
So here's a thought from FB.
If the 4th says the 2A requires SS, doesn't that mean Woollard should be reheard?
This is some terrific news, and I will fully admit I didn't expect this to go our way - AWBs have been notoriously hard to kill.
The possibilities that this will open up at the local and national levels are huge, and cannot be overestimated. With the right sequences of events (state appeal, SCOTUS affirm), this could destroy every AWB and mag cap limit in the country.
Of course, it will never get that far, because Frosh would have to be some sort of insane to appeal to the current SCOTUS and risk that happening on the national level. But does he have a choice? He's AG, he's supposed to defend our laws... maybe repeal is closer than we think?
Judge King wrote the 4th Circuit's decision in Woollard.
Frosh doesn't have the balls to appeal the opinion to the SCOTUS!
Can you blame him?
Yeah,
He's bluffing!
As a typical democrat politician, they will say anything to keep us little people in check. He is scared to go to the SCOTUS! Because the name Brian Frosh will be the guy who set back in the anti-gun agenda by 30 years.
Well said erwos.If he were to lose at SCOTUS on his own appeal, it would kill every single AWB and mag cap limit in the country. No way whatsoever it gets to that point. The district is now looking like a lock. If we can win the following appeal (or it gets denied), he will do everything in his power to drop the case or get the law repealed. No way does he want his legacy to be "the guy who ended gun control everywhere".
Evidently Mr. Saint's an educated man.I'm inclined to agree with that.
Then again, hubris is a melon farmer...
There isn't anything to appeal, just yet.
So here's a thought from FB. If the 4th says the 2A requires SS, doesn't that mean Woollard should be reheard?
Frosh is basically saying he will continue to trample your civil rights and wastefully spend your tax dollars.
That poor bastard. His hair is a wreck.
So, fast-forward to Frosh's now-almost-certain loss in district court. What are the tea leaves like for his appeal? You've got to figure he's going to request en banc, given the odds. Are they likely to contradict themselves? Do we think there's any chance at all they might just deny the appeal?
I'm worried that we're in a Woolard situation. But I guess that's life when you're playing judicial ball.
I'm worried that we're in a Woolard situation. But I guess that's life when you're playing judicial ball.
In the sense that we've got a nice win, but it may be uncertain on appeal. Are you sure he can appeal before going back to district court?Woollard was the reverse. A win at district, and a loss on Appeal.
Kolbe is a loss in district, and a win of sorts on Appeal.
To summarize then:
- Semi auto rifles and mags are covered by 2A
- Accordingly strict scrutiny should apply to review of FSA 2013
- retired LEO and everyday citizens not similarly situated with respect to possession of firearms
- Term "copies" of banned weapons is not overly vague
Miss anything?
In the sense that we've got a nice win, but it may be uncertain on appeal. Are you sure he can appeal before going back to district court?
Frosh is basically saying he will continue to trample your civil rights and wastefully spend your tax dollars.
Then how is a Beretta ARX a "copycat" of an AR-15? Not arguing with you, but if MSP can call an ARX a copy of an AR-15 then you can call me a copy of a sunflower.
Too bad this wasn't published on Monday, it would have made Tuesday a bit more festive in Annapolis.
Anybody up for a 2A Tuesday, part deaux?