He was not a permit holder and did not bother to apply for one because at the time of his arrest Hawaii was not issuing permits. None. Nada. Zero. It's a logical mess...
Hawaii SC says not right to carry!
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Hawaii's high court cites 'The Wire' in rebuke of US Supreme Court decision that expanded gun rights
A ruling by Hawaii’s high court saying that a man can be prosecuted for carrying a gun in public without a permit uses pop culture references in an apparent rebuke of a U.S. Supreme Court decision that expanded gun rights nationwide
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I didn't watch any of the videos (yet), but I did look at the court ruling. Using my Internet lawyer hat, I think when they wrote that there isn't a constitutional right to carry, I THINK they mean permitless carry, not that there is no right at all.
Everything around the many times they stated that, they reference the defendant not even submitting a permit application. And since he didn't try to get a permit which the Bruen decision allows, that is why they say the Bruen decision doesn't matter.
Everything around the many times they stated that, they reference the defendant not even submitting a permit application. And since he didn't try to get a permit which the Bruen decision allows, that is why they say the Bruen decision doesn't matter.
Hawai'i says Bruen and HELLER are flawed: there is no right. Heller wasn't about carry it was about possession.
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Cut them loose and let them be part of Japan or China ... we'll keep the bases like Gitmo
I'll bring the feathers. Who's got the tar?
Hawaii will tip over into the ocean like Guam
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I've been looking for a link to the Wilson decision. Finally scrounged it up:
It will be interesting and amusing to read the SCOTUS decision on this case; one can hope that Justice Thomas will be the author.
It will be interesting and amusing to read the SCOTUS decision on this case; one can hope that Justice Thomas will be the author.
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Yes.
The idiotic flourishes are just for giggles.
They are supposed to do that at Happy Hour.
Not during work hours.
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the quote of their logic is the money shot imo.
that said, I don’t think the guy involved would be the ideal poster boy for a pro2a case
And that said, this possession thing happened when their issue scheme (all negative connotations of the word scheme) was … it’ll be a cold day in Honolulu before we give you a permit. iirc, from 2017... and he could have applied all he wanted, he wasnt getting a permit. Period
that said, I don’t think the guy involved would be the ideal poster boy for a pro2a case
And that said, this possession thing happened when their issue scheme (all negative connotations of the word scheme) was … it’ll be a cold day in Honolulu before we give you a permit. iirc, from 2017... and he could have applied all he wanted, he wasnt getting a permit. Period
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this all occurred pre bruen, and may but WILL NEVER ISSUE! to common people was their permitting scheme. but yes, he did not apply.
recurring themes were, pre bruen, you must apply for a permit, spend time and money, just so we can tell you to take a hike.
recurring themes were, pre bruen, you must apply for a permit, spend time and money, just so we can tell you to take a hike.
The HSC doesn’t harp on no standing, they say Heller and Bruen are wrong and that is the basis of their decision. Their chances at the top would be better if they just concentrated on standing
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SCOTUS will love this tidbit:
Long ago, the Hawaiʻi Supreme Court announced that an “opinion of the
United States Supreme Court . . . is merely another source of
authority, admittedly to be afforded respectful consideration,
but which we are free to accept or reject in establishing the
outer limits of protection afforded by . . . the Hawaiʻi
Constitution.”
Long ago, the Hawaiʻi Supreme Court announced that an “opinion of the
United States Supreme Court . . . is merely another source of
authority, admittedly to be afforded respectful consideration,
but which we are free to accept or reject in establishing the
outer limits of protection afforded by . . . the Hawaiʻi
Constitution.”
That guy is such a clown. I can't believe he keeps getting reelected. Well, I do believe it, but can't.Hawaii will tip over into the ocean like Guam
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Keep in mind a lot of people are applauding Texas for standing up to SCOTUS, and if Hawaii does the same thing…….
God is not pleased with this decision.
Just had an earthquake on the big island
Just had an earthquake on the big island
Did they go against SCOTUS? I thought SCOTUS ruled the feds could cut Texas's razor wire and nothing more.
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