HD shotgun

[A. Wayne]

I wouldn't recommend a gun unless she is actually interested in one and tries out some. If SHE is actually worried about home defense help her to investigate all options.

 

[Forager]

20 gauge SxS coach gun.

Simple, rugged, easy to use, no issues with feeding or cycling (short-stroking a pump; FTE/FTFs).

 

[C-Par]

20 gauge before .410. .410 is useless, in my mind, for defense. Ask her to try low recoil 12 gauge rounds as well. She just might surprise you.

My 11 year old daughter can send both 20 and 12 flyin' with the best of 'em.

I tend to disagree, I would not like to be on the receiving end of my Saiga 410 with a 15 rd or 20 rd drum loaded with PD rounds. Plenty of punch with relatively low recoil coming at you fast.

There is also the Judge and Governor that can pack a punch.

 

[shocker998md]

If she does get to the point of where she will use a weapon to defend herself or family have her shoot a 20 and a 12 before buying something.

Case in point, my wife shoots with me often. I have two remington 870s, the 12 guage has the knox stock with the recoil reducing springs, extended tube, surefire front grip 18 inch barrel and a red dot. Its alot heavier then my 20 guage, but the kick is ALOT less. Once she realized that she wanted to practice with the 12 guage.

The 20 guage is a plain jane 870 with a 28 inch barrel maybe, something to the tune of that. Now she is able to use the 12 guage which stays next to the bed without me coaching her through it. This is my 2 cents.

Do not waste ur time and money though if she cannot deal with the idea of having to take someones life to protect herself or her family. And if shes not going to practice with it ur pissing into the wind too.

 

[Mr H]

Uh - what?



Really?

Yep...

Oklahoma comes to mind.

 

[Forager]

There is also the Judge and Governor that can pack a punch.

Crap.

 

[Mr H]

Crap.

Maybe he meant "pack a punch on the shooter's hands"???



That said...

I like the heck out of my Circuit Judge, and would not hesitate to pull it out in a no-time-available-and-no-other-option HD situation.

As for precision/functional/field use??? No clue, other than it fires LC pretty nicely.

 

[byf43]

This is the 870 Express that I set-up for my daughter.

I added a Wilson +2 magazine extension and a Knoxx PowerPak, along with a Mesa Tactical 4 round 'sidesaddle'.
The magazine extension adds too much weight up front for my daughter, so, I took it off.

Her first range trip, she shot 250 rounds of various different types of shells.
#7-1/2, #6, #4, 00B and Slugs.

She loves "Her Scattergun"!!

 

[rebrowning]

Problems with Mossbergs

Think hard before buying a Mossberg. Mossberg’s customer service is arguably the worst in the industry. While this is my personal tale of woe, there are many I have spoken to that have the similar experiences. I recommend saving up your spare change and buying Remington or better yet Benelli. It took me 9 phone calls and 36 days to get my shotgun problem addressed. I have called the Director of customer service, Steve Clark 3 times and never received a return call. I sent a letter to Alan Mossberg at cooperate headquarters in North Haven CT and have not received any reply. It is clear from the length of time you must hold to get a customer service representative, Mossberg has serious quality control issues. Buyer beware.

 

[XxNitr0xX]

Think hard before buying a Mossberg. Mossberg’s customer service is arguably the worst in the industry. While this is my personal tale of woe, there are many I have spoken to that have the similar experiences. I recommend saving up your spare change and buying Remington or better yet Benelli. It took me 9 phone calls and 36 days to get my shotgun problem addressed. I have called the Director of customer service, Steve Clark 3 times and never received a return call. I sent a letter to Alan Mossberg at cooperate headquarters in North Haven CT and have not received any reply. It is clear from the length of time you must hold to get a customer service representative, Mossberg has serious quality control issues. Buyer beware.

You really have a personal vendetta against Mossberg, don't you? You shouldn't even be expecting that much from customer service, unless it absolutely needed to be replaced and not fixed by yourself or a gunsmith..then it's understandable.

 

[Regal Lion]

You really have a personal vendetta against Mossberg, don't you? You shouldn't even be expecting that much from customer service, unless it absolutely needed to be replaced and not fixed by yourself or a gunsmith..then it's understandable.

I'm not sure why you would not expect a company to stand behind their product. Maybe I missed something but it didn't say anything about replacing the shotgun only "address the problem." I had a Taurus PT 101 that for some reason started shooting 6" left at 7 yards. None of my buddies could figure it out either. They suggested I send it back to Taurus. I called and they sent me a shipping label. I had the pistol back in 10 days with a new barrel, all without hassle.

 

[mopar92]

I'm not sure why you would not expect a company to stand behind their product. Maybe I missed something but it didn't say anything about replacing the shotgun only "address the problem." I had a Taurus PT 101 that for some reason started shooting 6" left at 7 yards. None of my buddies could figure it out either. They suggested I send it back to Taurus. I called and they sent me a shipping label. I had the pistol back in 10 days with a new barrel, all without hassle.

No he has 5 posts. 3 or 4 of them bash Mossberg.

 

[Regal Lion]

No he has 5 posts. 3 or 4 of them bash Mossberg.

Oh, I guess Mossberg tinkled in his Wheaties. LOL

 

[boss66tcode]

Think hard before buying a Mossberg. Mossberg’s customer service is arguably the worst in the industry. While this is my personal tale of woe, there are many I have spoken to that have the similar experiences. I recommend saving up your spare change and buying Remington or better yet Benelli. It took me 9 phone calls and 36 days to get my shotgun problem addressed. I have called the Director of customer service, Steve Clark 3 times and never received a return call. I sent a letter to Alan Mossberg at cooperate headquarters in North Haven CT and have not received any reply. It is clear from the length of time you must hold to get a customer service representative, Mossberg has serious quality control issues. Buyer beware.

There are plenty of used shotguns on the market such that a remmy 870, mossy 500 (even though you don't like them) or winchester shotgun bought used will serve a home defense role well. Keeping it simple sometimes has a value. This is one of those occasions.

None of the mainstream bread and butter gun manufacturers are going bonkers on an excellent customer service department. Right now, it seems everyone wants price, and they are trying to stay competitive.

 

[Forager]

If you absolutely have to have a pump, a used Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 is the way to go. Police trade-ins are very available in many different places (check with Streicher's locations; the one in Greensboro, NC usually has a few), and while cosmetically abused, mechanically they are very sound and very slick. I've bought several that way and never paid more than $200; generally closer to 1/2 that.

Either the 870 or the 500 are the most bomb-proof pumps on the market, and two of the 5 most bomb-proof pumps ever designed (Winchester 1897 and Model 12, and Ithaca Deerslayer being the other two). You have to try to go wrong with them, and parts are available just about everywhere imaginable.

 

[Full Chrome Jacket]

Maverick 88 pistol grip. 12 guage. Practice Practice Practice.
Glancing shot with 20ga or .410 may not do it.

 

[Darkemp]

If you absolutely have to have a pump, a used Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 is the way to go. Police trade-ins are very available in many different places (check with Streicher's locations; the one in Greensboro, NC usually has a few), and while cosmetically abused, mechanically they are very sound and very slick. I've bought several that way and never paid more than $200; generally closer to 1/2 that.

Either the 870 or the 500 are the most bomb-proof pumps on the market, and two of the 5 most bomb-proof pumps ever designed (Winchester 1897 and Model 12, and Ithaca Deerslayer being the other two). You have to try to go wrong with them, and parts are available just about everywhere imaginable.

I've got a 500 and a Maverick 88, the quality differences are noticeable which is why the 500 is my go to shotgun. I can't imagine either not functioning though, they seem rather simple and unbreakable. Might sell the Maverick at some point though, it's not really a necessity in my collection and just takes up space that something else could.