Jersey at it again

[Allen65]

Some of these state's legislators...and/or the gun control groups behind them...could be hoping that by the time the challenges get through the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court that the Court's makeup will have changed by then more to their liking.

Very likely their strategy. If you read some of their releases, they view Bruen as an aberration, not a change in overall trajectory towards ending private weapon possession of any kind. Whereas we view Bruen as a sea change in the relationship amongst 2A, the Government, and the People.

Foot dragging by lower courts is a tool the Antis will leverage in order to delay and deflect the real-world effects of Bruen until a solution for the decision itself can be found.

 

[JollyPedro]

NY amd NJ can easily stretch out the process. Sort of a passive-aggressive, albeit temporary, win.

It's been three months since Bruen and hearings on merits haven't even started. It could take another year to get a decision at District, then appeals, then en banc if the states lose on appeal, then up for cert, hearings, and decision at SCOTUS.

I believe the first hearing in the NY case is on Oct 20th, should know more then....

 

[Stoveman]

 

[LRoberts]

Just came across this article.

MSN

www.msn.com

Looks like New Jersey is trying to pass NY style gun control on steroids. Sensitive places, private property without owners consent, blah, blah, blah.
Man I hate these azzholes.

Noo Joisey is a police state. State cops there ar mercenary-type a$$wipes. They will illegally search your vehicles, your home and your persin, including "cavity search".

 

[LRoberts]

AMEN!!

 

[rbird7282]

Good Point. They can also name the places to be marked sensitive. Really they need to just remove 2A from any state control at all.
I havent gotten my permit yet because I wanted to wait for these shenanigans first as I think many others are as well. Which means there will be another surge when the dust settles. MD will not even remotely be able to say there is no interest after that.

And for now concealed is concealed in my mind

It doesn't matter if they think/say there's interest or not. They will lie and pass whatever restrictions they want because they despise gun owners and only want to control you. It has never been and never will be about safety.

 

[KingClown]

It doesn't matter if they think/say there's interest or not. They will lie and pass whatever restrictions they want because they despise gun owners and only want to control you. It has never been and never will be about safety.

Ok you got me they can say it but numbers will show otherwise.

 

[ryan_j]

I wonder what it will take to challenge these laws quickly. The tactic seems to be just throw anything at the wall and then let litigation take out the unconstitutional parts but that will take years.

 

[clandestine]

I believe this new bill allows all localities in NJ to pass gun laws that are more restrictive than state law. There are 400+ towns/cities in NJ from my understanding. Think about that.

I believe it will also mandate any current carry permit holders to take the new "approved training" within 90 days of the laws passage. The trainers have to be approved by the State as do the ranges. 90 days or your permit gets revoked.

 

[ryan_j]

I believe this new bill allows all localities in NJ to pass gun laws that are more restrictive than state law. There are 400+ towns/cities in NJ from my understanding. Think about that.

I believe it will also mandate any current carry permit holders to take the new "approved training" within 90 days of the laws passage. The trainers have to be approved by the State as do the ranges. 90 days or your permit gets revoked.

Yes, 565 municipalities to be exact. NJ loves home rule.

 

[delaware_export]

Apparently the New Jersey sensitive places case was heard today per FPC Twitter feed.. they had blow by blow there while it was going

 

[press1280]

Apparently the New Jersey sensitive places case was heard today per FPC Twitter feed.. they had blow by blow there while it was going

Judges are Krause (ANTI-Obama appointee), Porter (Trump), Chung (Biden, appointed this year). There's a lot of laws being challenged here.

I imagine there will likely be some kind of split, some laws struck, others upheld.3rd circuit has had quite a few en banc gun cases. I wouldn't be surprised to see this one also go en banc.