New PA bill to recognize all nonresident carry licenses

[Mr H]

The bottom line for PA--as in MD--is to push to elect pro-Constitutional people to ALL offices.

But if PA residents become as feckless and complacent as MD residents...???

 

[Vile Shadow]

What do you do when AG Kane stops recognizing TX NR permits?

Somehow I don't see that happening. A Texas NR permit is a bit tougher to get than the states they're cutting off. You actually have to go to Texas to get it.

 

[pilotguy]

What do you do when AG Kane stops recognizing TX NR permits?

Texas is much harder to get than PA and requires 10 hours of training with range time and a proficiency test. PA AG is trying to drop states with lesser than PA standards. TX would probably be the last one she would try to drop.

 

[redeemed.man]

Texas is much harder to get than PA and requires 10 hours of training with range time and a proficiency test. PA AG is trying to drop states with lesser than PA standards. TX would probably be the last one she would try to drop.

I don't think that is the case at all. PA is the easiest permit you can get if you are eligible. No training, no fingerprints, $20 and 20 minutes. Nothing to it. Every permit she recently dropped reciprocity with is more difficult to get than a PA permit. All required at least some training and fingerprints.

 

[Vile Shadow]

I don't think that is the case at all. PA is the easiest permit you can get if you are eligible.

And that right there is the key. We can't get 'em because PA wants us to have a MD permit first. It's about limiting eligibility.

 

[Brooklyn]

It also happens when the Republicans dont run good candidates.

Better fix the democratic party then I am increasingly disinclined to save the country only to let the Democrats f,,k it up again. A few burring cities may clue them in, but either way The Republicans will not be punting out the fire -- you broke it you fix it

 

[Brooklyn]

And that right there is the key. We can't get 'em because PA wants us to have a MD permit first. It's about limiting eligibility.

Working on it.. want to help ? Legislation is moving and I have suggested providing for NR resident permits on the same basis -- I have suggested that higher fees for no residents ( since they are not taxpayers) would not necessarily be a deal breaker. BTW the recent DC case may give us a way to litigate this issue ( if the law does not change of course) .

https://foac-pac.org/

is actively involved. They are mostly based in Pittsburgh, but if we get enough interest they may be meting and having activities in Harrisburg. I speak with their rep at York and also today at Gettysburg gun show.


Now sure what we can actually do at this time ... but I am going to keep the lines of communication open ...

 

[Pinecone]

What do you do when AG Kane stops recognizing TX NR permits?

One thing at a time.

Plus I need to go to TX for some house shopping. Yes, I am a 47%er.

Also need to go to NV and get a permit.

 

[swinokur]

That's funny because I'm headed to Vegas this Saturday to renew my NV permit.

 

[gamer_jim]

I have a brother in-law who was transferred to a fort in Texas. Next time we visit them I'll have to schedule a Texas permit class at the same time.

 

[K-Romulus]

Texas is much harder to get than PA and requires 10 hours of training with range time and a proficiency test. PA AG is trying to drop states with lesser than PA standards. TX would probably be the last one she would try to drop.

Actually, Kane cited UT's issuing to non-residents w/o a home state permit from their home state as the excuse for initially dropping reciprocity with that state.
http://www.pagunblog.com/wp-content...8_10203044943380999_5607106216870786883_o.jpg


But later, the new reciprocity agreement explicitly stated that only *UT resident* permits would be recognized, which proves the excuse was a sham.


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[swinokur]

PA has no training requirements that I can recall. FL, VA, and UT all have some training requirements. UT requires a specific class, FL requires an NRA class or something similar. or a DD214 for military service. VA allows on line training but certainly more than PA.

So training can't be the reason AG Kane is dropping other states. Other states' granting of non resident permits seems the more plausible explanation, as she dropped VA, UT, and FL.

I don't see her reasoning but she's a lib, so no more of an explanation might be needed. Maybe Bloomturd got to her.

 

[Mr H]

PA has no training requirements that I can recall. FL, VA, and UT all have some training requirements. UT requires a specific class, FL requires an NRA class or something similar. or a DD214 for military service. VA allows on line training but certainly more than PA.

So training can't be the reason AG Kane is dropping other states. Other states' granting of non resident permits seems the more plausible explanation, as she dropped VA, UT, and FL.

I don't see her reasoning but she's a lib, so no more of an explanation might be needed. Maybe Bloomturd got to her.

It's not a reason, it's an excuse IMO.

I get the distinct feeling she'd drop them all if she could.

 

[DC-W]

It's not a reason, it's an excuse IMO.

I get the distinct feeling she'd drop them all if she could.

Thankfully, I don't think she has that authority.

 

[swinokur]

IIRC Ryan J saids some are by statute. she can't cancel those.

thankfully.

 

[ryan_j]

Somehow I don't see that happening. A Texas NR permit is a bit tougher to get than the states they're cutting off. You actually have to go to Texas to get it.

Never say never. People said that about Utah and look what happened.

 

[ryan_j]

IIRC Ryan J saids some are by statute. she can't cancel those.

thankfully.

lol No I was mistaken about that. Supposedly Utah was by statute but it actually was by determination of the AG so she was able to kill Utah NR. There are concerns she is breaking the law but so far nothing other than testimony in the legislature and this bill has been done to rein her in.

 

[swinokur]

lol No I was mistaken about that. Supposedly Utah was by statute but it actually was by determination of the AG so she was able to kill Utah NR. There are concerns she is breaking the law but so far nothing other than testimony in the legislature and this bill has been done to rein her in.

oops. wiping egg off face.

 

[Vile Shadow]

PA has no training requirements that I can recall. FL, VA, and UT all have some training requirements. UT requires a specific class, FL requires an NRA class or something similar. or a DD214 for military service. VA allows on line training but certainly more than PA.

So training can't be the reason AG Kane is dropping other states. Other states' granting of non resident permits seems the more plausible explanation, as she dropped VA, UT, and FL.

I don't see her reasoning but she's a lib, so no more of an explanation might be needed. Maybe Bloomturd got to her.

PA is surrounded by very gun-unfriendly states which are also all may-issue, with the exception of, perhaps, Ohio. What I think is going on is this AG thinking to herself why if people are not allowed and will never be allowed to carry in their home state, should they be then allowed to carry concealed in PA?

 

[swinokur]

That would comport with the mindset of an anti for sure. If they met PA requirements, why would she care? A small revenue stream for local sheriffs and more armed good guys.

IIRC her original objection was PA residents carrying in PA on FL NR permits.

She sure changed her tune.