no more 308 208gr Hornady amax

[Melnic]

After buying factory 208gr 300blk subsonics, I was going to take my hand at reloading the same.
But the Hornady website says its no longer selling 208gr 308 Amax bullets.
So what is everyone using for an accurate 300blk subsonic bullet?

 

[Semper Noctem]

220 Sierra match kings seem to be the other go to. I've had great results with them.

 

[Fox123]

I thought hornady was replacing them with something else, where they changed the type of plastic in the nose.

 

[outrider58]

This...

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=195949

 

[Fox123]

Yeah that thing I was going to call it LED.

So much bullet and only using a fraction of its abilities. For a subsonic 300 BO seems like overkill. Watching their promotional videos about how this tip doesn't melt etc, is a sub 300 BO even going fast enough to do that? Also it's not going fast enough to open up either, it's going to act just like a FMJ and with it being so slippery probably won't Yaw either.

 

[tkd4life]

Yeah that thing I was going to call it LED.

So much bullet and only using a fraction of its abilities. For a subsonic 300 BO seems like overkill. Watching their promotional videos about how this tip doesn't melt etc, is a sub 300 BO even going fast enough to do that? Also it's not going fast enough to open up either, it's going to act just like a FMJ and with it being so slippery probably won't Yaw either.

No a subsonic projectile won't get hot enough to melt a polymer tip. The eld would be a waste at subsonic speeds. A bthp would be much better suited.

 

[outrider58]

I don't know if there's anything that will expand much sub-sonic. There definitely seems to be a gap in .308-300 blk realm for now. Hopefully this will change. Probably won't be easy making a bullet soft enough to expand at those low velocities and still keep it's integrity/accuracy through it's trip down the barrel.

 

[smdub]

I have a bunch of 30cal 208 amax I would sell. Email me if interested. The new bullet is the ELD and I can verify w back to back testing in 6.5 creedmoor against the old amax the new ELD is superior at supersonic speeds. As said, probably makes no difference to subs.

 

[BradMacc82]

The 225gr BTHP Hornady is what I always used for subs, they were easier to find than the 220gr SMK/208gr Amax - at that time.

 

[Klunatic]

I don't know if there's anything that will expand much sub-sonic. There definitely seems to be a gap in .308-300 blk realm for now. Hopefully this will change. Probably won't be easy making a bullet soft enough to expand at those low velocities and still keep it's integrity/accuracy through it's trip down the barrel.

Lehigh Defense makes a few .300BLK rounds that expand at subsonic speeds. Not cheap but if you want to use subsonic for home defense these are what I would use. They make a few flavors the Controlled Fracture and the 194gr Maximum expansion. These are pretty much the only subsonic ammo I am aware of the will expand.

http://www.lehighdefense.com/collections/bullets/300-aac-blackout-whisper

 

[Leper Messiah]

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0011553154/30-caliber-point308-

 

[outrider58]

Lehigh Defense makes a few .300BLK rounds that expand at subsonic speeds. Not cheap but if you want to use subsonic for home defense these are what I would use. They make a few flavors the Controlled Fracture and the 194gr Maximum expansion. These are pretty much the only subsonic ammo I am aware of the will expand.

http://www.lehighdefense.com/collections/bullets/300-aac-blackout-whisper

Thanks!

 

[Fox123]

Outlaw state bullets supposedly make an expanding subsonic 300 BO. I don't have any credible data but I remember reading about it somewhere, if someone was looking, might give them another starting point.

 

[Fox123]

http://www.outlawstatebullets.com/2.html

 

[teratos]

I just got a bunch of Leather Neck coated 220 gr projectiles. Have some loaded to test, but haven't tried them. If the bullets don't expand, no reason not to go with a cast bullet. They are cheap.

 

[outrider58]

I just got a bunch of Leather Neck coated 220 gr projectiles. Have some loaded to test, but haven't tried them. If the bullets don't expand, no reason not to go with a cast bullet. They are cheap.

I've been playing with 215 gr (.309) PC Better Bullets but have yet to get them to cycle/lock back so I'm still working on it.

 

[Blacksmith101]

Just use cast lead with 3% Antimony (must be melted over a crab cooker). They Shroom real nice at BP velocities.
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=93082

 

[teratos]

I've been playing with 215 gr (.309) PC Better Bullets but have yet to get them to cycle/lock back so I'm still working on it.

Shooting suppressed?

Just use cast lead with 3% Antimony (must be melted over a crab cooker). They Shroom real nice at BP velocities. https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=93082

I forgot to ask about antimony.....probably doesn't matter, does it? No matter what you add it remains 3%.

 

[outrider58]

Shooting suppressed?

Yep;

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4425187#post4425187

 

[teratos]

Yep; https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4425187#post4425187

Adjustable gas block? I'm using a 10.5" Noveske barrel and using the Noveske gas block. I'll let you know how the cast bullets go. I have cycled 220 grain factory ammo fine.