So I'll happily admit I can be dense sometimes but I don't see question 20 requiring you to have a permit from somewhere else. All Question 20 asks is do you have a residence or place of business in the US AND are licensed to carry by another state.
And if you answer yes to that then they want proof of that license to carry and proof of residence/business.
I don't see that requiring you to have another state's permit before DC will issue you one.
Where do you see DC saying you must have a permit from somewhere before they will issue you one.
Question 20 asks if you have a permit they would like to see it.
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I corrected your incorrect interpretation and comprehension of the statute.
Incorrect again
Be as snarky, blustery and buffoonish as you want. It still will not change the fact that you are wrong. You continue to spew out incorrect information and when challenged on it you just double down on your ignorance.
Maybe things were different in the May Issue Era. I don't know.
In the Shall Issue Era a non-resident applicant does not need a permit.
It's great that you won't do the research for someone here -- hopefully in the real world no one actually relies on your research either because so far its pretty atrocious.
Again, you do not actually know what you are talking about -- in fact you are 100% wrong. But keep telling us how right you are.
I guess you missed the OR between (2) and (3).
It's not the opinion of some on this thread.
It is the actual correct interpretation of the statute -- something that seems to continuously escape you.
Sage954 you did not slip through the cracks.
They may give out wrong information sometimes but they are always pleasant to deal with.
Your continued insistence on an incorrect interpretation of the law is frankly astonishing.
There is no requirement for a non-resident DC applicant to already posess another jurisdiction's permit.
Last post for now.
If I felt like making a poll maybe we could make this more interesting.
Anyway:
Since remote learning seems to be the item of the day, lets have some fun:
The correct answer to the following statement is yes or no:
"it would be correct to say that non-dc residents do not need to have a ccw permit from somewhere else before applying for a DC permit."
Everyone can vote!
Maybe later I will post the answer from the only person that matters.
Your first post was correct.
Without posting anything to the contrary other than your words you offer no foundation for your position other than the "or" in the statute. So what does that "or" mean? We can already ascertain from the rest of the statute that you must live or have a business in DC or have a permit from another jurisdiction (does not say your own) and then why do you think that they put the other "or" in there? Surplus of letters? Or does it describe how residents who live in states that don't issue permits (think Vermont) obtain the ability to carry a concealed pistol in DC?
The Giffords Law Center (hardly a conservative or right leaning organization but they are lawyers) sums it up in just that way.
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/concealed-carry-in-washington-dc/
Pertinent information from the article here:
Reciprocity
The District does not recognize permits issued from any other jurisdiction.9 However, a person possessing a valid concealed carry permit from another jurisdiction, or a state that does not issue concealed carry permits, may apply to the District for a concealed carry permit.10
And here:
Applicants for a concealed carry permit in the District must:
Live or work within the District of Columbia. If the person does not live or work in the District, the permit applicant must live or work in another state and possess a valid concealed carry permit from that state. If an applicant resides in a state that does not issue concealed carry permits, the applicant may apply for a permit provided he or she meets the eligibility criteria for a District resident; and
Be a suitable person to be permitted.3
But those are just a bunch of lefty lawyers, we can't believe what they say, right? Well let's go check in on George Lyon who writes here:
https://www.arsenalattorneys.com/fi...lication-procedures-and-training-requirements
Application procedures are relatively simple. Applicants must fill out a three page form available on line from the Metropolitan Police Department, which can be found at this link. The form can be filled out on line and printed. Applicants must take the form in person to MPD headquarters RM 3077, 300 Indiana Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20001, Monday through Friday between the hours of 9 am and 5 pm. Hint: don't arrive after 4 pm and expect to be served. Bring two forms of identification. If you are not a DC resident, you must provide proof of the issuance of a carry permit from another jurisdiction. It need not be your home state.
Now if you want to continue to argue with George you are arguing with someone who was partly responsible for why DC is Shall Issue but you do you.