High fees
Severe restrictions on where you can carry violation of which makes you a prohibited person
Lengthy training classes
Once carry outside the home is established as a Right, it becomes very difficult to implement high fees.
High fees
Severe restrictions on where you can carry violation of which makes you a prohibited person
Lengthy training classes
This is what the left really thinks. I really don't care of the lefts thinking or how they feel. Sure they don't take my feeling into consideration.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...eyes-gun-laws-reach/ar-BB1g6jiG?ocid=msedgdhp
Really??
Once carry outside the home is established as a Right, it becomes very difficult to implement high fees.
I saw where he had said this as well and I hope the lawyers are smart enough to show this to the court. He literally plain as day made it clear he is infringing and trying to take thier rights. It should make it a slam dunk case. There is no way to spin it with the words Deblabio used. I am not sure any of the libtarded justices could spin that.
Let's not start celebrating yet. Someone could die, even if they rule in our favor it might not go as far as we want, etc..
I'm unable to find anywhere in the Second Amendment the words "with a permit" or "while in your home or on your land." It really is QUITE clear. fred55
Nothing is in the constitution about registering when it comes to voting.
I'm unable to find anywhere in the Second Amendment the words "with a permit" or "while in your home or on your land." It really is QUITE clear. fred55
It is not as clear as you suggest. The 2A does not define the scope of the right. It is a preexisting right that you need to look elsewhere to fully understand.
It is not as clear as you suggest. The 2A does not define the scope of the right. It is a preexisting right that you need to look elsewhere to fully understand.
"the Second Amendment . . . codified a pre-existing right.” Id., at 592. This right was “enshrined with the scope [it was] understood to have when the people adopted” it. Id., at 634. To determine that scope, we analyzed the original meaning of the Second Amendment’s text as well as the historical understanding of the right".
You new here ?? Or just started drinking early ??
These liberal @sshats will do anything to prevent peons to carry . They know it will take years to wind through the courts
Scalia said as much in his opinion in Heller v. DC.I think the intentions of the founding fathers and their Nation creating documents are pretty clear to the majority of citizens. It's the wordsmiths that contort the words and attempt to bugger the Constitution to meet their goals. IMHO fred55
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/18-824
Just think this dissent we will see much of the same language. I'm sure Justice ACB will weigh in.
DC requires 16 hours of classroom training and a 2 hour live fire range test to qualify for a permit. The range test consists of 10 rounds at each of five distances: 3, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards. Timed and scored, starting from holster with by sides. You have about 1 second per round at the closer distances and nearly 2 seconds per round at 10 and 15 yards. Highest possible score is 500, I think you have to get a minimum of something like 380 to pass. Must be renewed every 2 years, and 4 hours of refresher classroom training and completing the range test again are required for renewal. The instructor will have some practice time with you and do a practice cycle run through of all the test shots before the test if given.
Depending on what certified trainer you use, costs for training, DC permit fees, range fee, and ammo, you can be looking at $500 and up for the initial permit.
Scalia said as much in his opinion in Heller v. DC.
Scalia was of the mindset - and he backed it up with reference after reference from the writings of the Founders - that the Bill of Rights was written in simple language so that it could be understood by everyone, and "the People" meant everyone.
He further went on to show that the operative clause, "The right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," was not defined or limited by the prefatory clause, but rather that a well-regulated militia made up of the people could only exist IF the people were armed, and therefore in the minds of some of the Founders, "the People" - meaning everyone - SHOULD be armed.
DC requires 16 hours of classroom training and a 2 hour live fire range test to qualify for a permit. The range test consists of 10 rounds at each of five distances: 3, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards. Timed and scored, starting from holster with by sides. You have about 1 second per round at the closer distances and nearly 2 seconds per round at 10 and 15 yards. Highest possible score is 500, I think you have to get a minimum of something like 380 to pass. Must be renewed every 2 years, and 4 hours of refresher classroom training and completing the range test again are required for renewal. The instructor will have some practice time with you and do a practice cycle run through of all the test shots before the test if given.
Depending on what certified trainer you use, costs for training, DC permit fees, range fee, and ammo, you can be looking at $500 and up for the initial permit.
You don't seem to grasp the concept that "Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have at their adoption."
There was no unlimited right to carry whatever, wherever, and for however you want. One of the restrictions on carry was concealed carry.
The historical understanding for why concealed carry was prohibited is to prevent arms from being used for "nefarious purposes". Today one should be allowed to conceal carry because it is not exclusively associated with "nefarious purposes", but that does not change the fact that carrying for "nefarious purposes" is still prohibited because that is what was historically prohibited.
The carry permit is simply an extension on the "nefarious purposes" to make it easier to identify those that do not commit "nefarious" acts. It is consistent with the historical understanding of the right.
You don't need a permit system for that. A driver's license can indicate prohibited status.
Furthermore, a permit creates a "guilty until proven innocent" standard, which is an anathema to our ordered system of liberty.
A permit is something you get for a privilege, not a right, unless it is for some kind of exercise of a right that would otherwise interfere with another right.