NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!

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    God Bless America
    Jan 6, 2011
    1,082
    Virginia
    I don't want a Md-nonresident ccw. I want reciprocity to my VA permit.

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    Norton

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    May 22, 2005
    122,906
    I thought you were kidding. A scorned woman....


    The ruling directly addresses that advances in firearms technology is not relative. It fvcking says it right there, but of course she knows that.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,685
    SoMD / West PA
    The contention that KIB is making is that the stipulation for granting said carry permit has been deemed unconstitutional, and therefore everything related to it is unconstitutional as well. You can't have a statute that mandates the usage of a permit when the permit process as it currently stands is unconstitutional. It renders the whole thing null and void.
    There is a severability doctrine in the legal world, that allows only the unconstitutional portion to be stricken while the rest of the law stands.
     

    camo556

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 29, 2021
    2,634
    There is a severability doctrine in the legal world, that allows only the unconstitutional portion to be stricken while the rest of the law stands.
    this.

    And, the MSI lawsuit presently before the court only challenged two subparts (I forgot the exact #) related to good and substantial. Even if MSI wins, we still have the training, interviews, references, etc.
     

    Mike

    Propietario de casa, Toluca, México
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    This goes to my point exactly. They don't care. Hell, this may actually result in more gun control legislation for consideration than there otherwise would have been. They are openly hostile to the SCOTUS - many of them see current SCOTUS as illegitimate because Orange Man Bad and Orange Man Bad's picks allowed this to happen.

    And I ask the question again - if these remaining May Issue states don't change a damn thing or do the absolute minimum while increasing costs/training, shortening license times, etc... what will happen to them? Who "forces" them to comply?
    The same thing should happen as happened when racial segregation laws were declared unconstitutional and some states refused to comply. But the current treasonous cabal in DC will not do that.
     

    budman93

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 1, 2013
    5,287
    Frederick County
    this.

    And, the MSI lawsuit presently before the court only challenged two subparts (I forgot the exact #) related to good and substantial. Even if MSI wins, we still have the training, interviews, references, etc.
    Interviews are subjective just the same as good and substantial. I dont think you can keep those after they clearly said requirements must be objective.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
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    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,952
    Bel Air
    The ruling directly addresses that advances in firearms technology is not relative. It fvcking says it right there, but of course she knows that.
    She counts on her base to be spoonfed. So they’ll believe her and cheer on her irrelevant musket stupidity.

    I know you knew that.
     

    Michigander08

    ridiculous and psychotic
    MDS Supporter
    May 29, 2017
    7,772
    The ruling directly addresses that advances in firearms technology is not relative. It fvcking says it right there, but of course she knows that.
    We prepare to strip her citizenship and she can go back to wherever her ancestors came from!
     

    cms1528

    Active Member
    Feb 26, 2013
    802
    So can this idiot be charged with a criminal offense, or civil only, if he was to carry out his threat?

    The lawsuits alone will bankrupt that city if he fails to follow the law.
     

    jcutonilli

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 28, 2013
    2,474
    I think people are misunderstanding what was just decided. The decided that "New York's proper-cause requirement violates the Fourteenth Amendment" The rest of the may issue licensing system remains. The case gets remanded to the lower courts to figure out how to deal with the opinion.

    While the Court came to the correct decision, it did so by some inconsistent reasoning that is still subject to interpretation. We will need to wait and see how those opposed will interpret the decision to their advantage.

    As for MD, the decision technically does not cover MD's G&S requirement. As currently interpreted, the G&S requirement would not survive a challenge, but it is sufficiently vague that other requirements may be imposed in their place. We will need to wait and see if there are other requirements that take its place.
     

    Apd09

    Active Member
    May 30, 2013
    982
    Westminster, MD
    and like that Mr. Saltpeter chimes in. yay!

    Joey Ryan has something for Mr. Saltpeter.
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    Magnumst

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 26, 2013
    1,253
    the Courts of Appeals have developed a “two-step” framework for analyzing Second Amendment challenges that combines history with means-end scrutiny. The Court rejects that two-part approach as having one step too many.

    As I read this, it seems to me that an application is step one and any other requirement beyond this is step 2 and out of bounds.
     

    jbrown50

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 18, 2014
    3,474
    DC
    I don't want a Md-nonresident ccw. I want reciprocity to my VA permit.

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    Same here with my permits but the statists have a bad habit of raising their ugly heads. I have no doubt Thomas wanted to go further including declaring all licensing unconstitutional but was limited by the scope and, like Scalia with Kennedy, had to water it down to keep the majority on board. At least we can enjoy the demise of G&S/may issue.
     

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