NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!

[Jim12]

Looks like they are preparing for the influx of applications.

I am getting ready to write a check to MSI/counselor Pennak for something north of what I've paid in combined membership dues to MSI for a whole bunch of years.

Severability isn't presumed, and it has limited application. If a specific piece of legislation containing a severability clause is passed and one section of in that piece of legislation is struck, the other provisions contained in that specific piece of legislation survive. If that bill did not contain a severability clause, all of the provisions contained in that specific bill fall, but that has no effect on any other legislation passed by the MGA.

I have been trying to lay my hands on the specific legislation containing either G&S or the W&C permitting scheme that the MGA passed in order to see whether there are any severability clause(s). If the legislation containing the G&S provision does not have a severability clause, everything else in that legislation should be gone as well.

On a different note, I recall Illinois went through a situation several years ago. They were like MD, seldom granting carry permits under their may issue scheme. Courts tossed out may issue and the Illinois legislature had to come up with a new shall issue scheme that was consistent with the court's order. IIRC, Illinois has a large number of sensitive places. That may change following the recent opinion.

There should be and are limits to the severability provision. If the unconstitutional provision frustrates or affects the purpose of the bill, (don't recall the current threshhold) the entire bill is struck down.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Found another interesting article on Justice Sotomayor and Gun rights.

Flashback: Did Justice Sotomayor 'Lie' to Senators About Gun Rights?

Standards.

townhall.com

 

[babalou]

While the federal government does have the ability to extend some jurisdictional boundaries for specific reasons I won't go into, they are typically situationally specific, emergency based, and limited in duration. Making non-federal land off limits would be up to the state.

Gotcha

 

[press1280]

No orders issued for the 4 pending cases this morning sadly.

however that is NOT bad news!!!

Perhaps they are writing something for the GVR other than "See Bruen"

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

I took my wife, then girlfriend, shooting at Whiteford Quarries when we dated in High School. For our first Christmas after we got married she got me a Ruger Blackhawk convertable 45 Colt/ 45 ACP

I'd take a Blackhawk over a wedding band from my new bride any day.

I presume she did not make a "straw" purchase. Huh rseymourjr.

Oh and this makes me ponder some BS legislation the MDGA was trying to pull a few years back. Anyone know the status of their effort to make it that if one were to "Loan" a rifle, shotgun, etc to a buddy to go hunting with, they wanted to require an FFL transfer in order to be legal about it? Kind of the same BS if one were to " loan" their Shotgun, Glock, Super Blackhawk to their spouse, the spouse would need to be FFL legal, including HQL, Prints, pay Massa Frosh for the privilege. Anyone know if this same jump through the hoops, obey us or else you can't exchange guns between spouses, etc laws ever passed of gained traction?

 

[rseymorejr]

I'd take a Blackhawk over a wedding band from my new bride any day.

I presume she did not make a "straw" purchase. Huh rseymourjr.

Oh and this makes me ponder some BS legislation the MDGA was trying to pull a few years back. Anyone know the status of their effort to make it that if one were to "Loan" a rifle, shotgun, etc to a buddy to go hunting with, they wanted to require an FFL transfer in order to be legal about it? Kind of the same BS if one were to " loan" their Shotgun, Glock, Super Blackhawk to their spouse, the spouse would need to be FFL legal, including HQL, Prints, pay Massa Frosh for the privilege. Anyone know if this same jump through the hoops, obey us or else you can't exchange guns between spouses, etc laws ever passed of gained traction?

Technically it's her gun (she reminds me of that once in a while) and I've been borrowing it for 38 years.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Technically it's her gun (she reminds me of that once in a while) and I've been borrowing it for 38 years.

She sounds like a keeper and a woman with excellent personality and traits.

 

[rseymorejr]

She sounds like a keeper and a woman with excellent personality and traits.

She married me so her judgement is a little off! LOL!

 

[Steyr40]

Not sure if this was brought up, but here's a thought. If the metro system is ruled out as a sensitive place, being that our metro system runs throughout MD, DC, and VA, wouldn't that bring about a case for reciprocity at least in the DMV? Could this present a successful legal challenge for someone who found themselves under arrest?

 

[hodgepodge]

I just signed up for my 2 day Maryland class at Cindy's in Glen Burnie if anyone wants to join me, Thursday, July 14th and Friday, July 15th. I think there are 9 spots left.

See you there!

 

[243hunter]

On a different note, I recall Illinois went through a situation several years ago. They were like MD, seldom granting carry permits under their may issue scheme. Courts tossed out may issue and the Illinois legislature had to come up with a new shall issue scheme that was consistent with the court's order. IIRC, Illinois has a large number of sensitive places. That may change following the recent opinion.

IL never had a May issue permit system. We went from nothing to Shall Issue. There was talk of may issue if certain things were not agreed to by the gun lobby, but we still got shall issue, but a ton of no carry areas.

 

[teratos]

IL never had a May issue permit system. We went from nothing to Shall Issue. There was talk of may issue if certain things were not agreed to by the gun lobby, but we still got shall issue, but a ton of no carry areas.

Well…a lawsuit on sensitive areas will be forthcoming. It’s in the box of shenanigans Thomas set on the top shelf so the little leftists couldn’t get to it. Sensitive areas are to be VERY narrowly tailored AND must serve a very compelling government interest.

 

[Allen65]

Well…a lawsuit on sensitive areas will be forthcoming. It’s in the box of shenanigans Thomas set on the top shelf so the little leftists couldn’t get to it. Sensitive areas are to be VERY narrowly tailored AND must serve a very compelling government interest.

To MGA, not allowing subjects to posses weapons is a compelling government interest.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Not sure if this was brought up, but here's a thought. If the metro system is ruled out as a sensitive place, being that our metro system runs throughout MD, DC, and VA, wouldn't that bring about a case for reciprocity at least in the DMV? Could this present a successful legal challenge for someone who found themselves under arrest?

Carry on the metro is not illegal in Va.
It was also not illegal until DC became shall issue.


Sent from an undisclosed location.

 

[Steyr40]

Carry on the metro is not illegal in Va.
It was also not illegal until DC became shall issue.


Sent from an undisclosed location.

Just wondering how it would work if you concealed in MD and ride into DC or VA without their license. Or, for that matter, the Beltway. I think I know what would happen, but for the sake of conversation... I can see that getting messy. It would be nice not to have to worry about that kind of thing. I guess with MD that's asking a lot.

 

[Applehd]

Va. honors Md. permit... just sayin'

 

[teratos]

Just wondering how it would work if you concealed in MD and ride into DC or VA without their license. Or, for that matter, the Beltway. I think I know what would happen, but for the sake of conversation... I can see that getting messy. It would be nice not to have to worry about that kind of thing. I guess with MD that's asking a lot.

They are going to have to figure it out. The 2A doesn’t end at the State line. Getting every State’s permits is excessive and repugnant to the 2A. Look what Clandestine spent for him and his wife.

I intend to exercise my right everywhere.

 

[Lalez]

Just wondering how it would work if you concealed in MD and ride into DC or VA without their license. Or, for that matter, the Beltway. I think I know what would happen, but for the sake of conversation... I can see that getting messy. It would be nice not to have to worry about that kind of thing. I guess with MD that's asking a lot.

Reciprocity is coming

 

[whistlersmother]

Long gun open carry should get some MDGA action.

 

[Steyr40]

Va. honors Md. permit... just sayin'

Well, that's good to know.