Question on Carry Positions

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  • Sealion

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    Per Teratos, check out defensive shooting videos. The majority of the succesful one's I have seen are usually appendix carry with one in the chamber. YMMV.
     

    Tower43

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    Jul 6, 2010
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    Every reputable instructor I've ever trained with has followed the four safety rules even with unloaded guns in the classroom, and I think this is a pretty wise decision. Too dangerous to discuss is perhaps an exaggeration, but as Hogarth mentioned with his blog link, there are a number of reasons why shoulder carry and cross-draw aren't very good technique in general.

    Small of back is slow and difficult to secure, I'm unsure why anyone in the year 2022 would be promoting that. :P
    Movies and tv shows… thats why
     

    E.Shell

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    Feb 5, 2007
    10,373
    Mid-Merlind
    Israeli carry should really be called the suicide carry
    QFT

    If one cannot feel safer with a firearm than without, why carry it?

    There are ways to safely carry a loaded (actually loaded and ready to rely on, with a cartridge chambered) handgun, that 'feeling scared' of your gear is really not a valid excuse.

    If one is really scared of their gun, there ARE ways to carry a firearm that is actually ready to use. As someone posted above, a double-action revolver, hammer down on an empty chamber, is pretty much fail-safe, but WILL go bang when you need it, albeit down a round for no good reason other than fear itself.
     

    swinokur

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    No it’s for when you hand it to your conqueror butt first so he doesn’t shoot you


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    Darkemp

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    Aug 18, 2009
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    QFT

    If one cannot feel safer with a firearm than without, why carry it?

    There are ways to safely carry a loaded (actually loaded and ready to rely on, with a cartridge chambered) handgun, that 'feeling scared' of your gear is really not a valid excuse.

    If one is really scared of their gun, there ARE ways to carry a firearm that is actually ready to use. As someone posted above, a double-action revolver, hammer down on an empty chamber, is pretty much fail-safe, but WILL go bang when you need it, albeit down a round for no good reason other than fear itself.
    Modern revolvers with a transfer bar can’t even be fired by slamming the rear of the hammer to push the firing pin forward. That’s been in place since at least the 1940’s. I have no idea how someone could hook and accidentally pull the trigger on a DA revolver of 10lbs or more.
     

    E.Shell

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    Feb 5, 2007
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    Mid-Merlind
    Modern revolvers with a transfer bar can’t even be fired by slamming the rear of the hammer to push the firing pin forward. That’s been in place since at least the 1940’s. I have no idea how someone could hook and accidentally pull the trigger on a DA revolver of 10lbs or more.
    Which is why it makes a good example.
     

    linkstate

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    Jan 26, 2013
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    Howard County
    The point about situations that call for surreptitiously drawing your gun makes sense.

    I can’t stand the host of Active Self Protection on YouTube but he has many videos that show someone carrying at a store or restaurant minding their own business when a thug runs in demanding money, telling people to get on the ground or go in the back of the store, etc. Drawing right away when the thug is pointing a gun at you is probably not going to end well. But if you can initially comply and position yourself to draw unnoticed while waiting for an opportunity, having a round chambered would likely make for a more positive outcome.
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    I have no idea how someone could hook and accidentally pull the trigger on a DA revolver of 10lbs or more.

    Oh , it's certainly been done . But it's a lot harder , aka much lesa likely to do .

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    But yeah , virtually every DA Revolver since about the turn of the 20th Century has a hammer block , and empty chamber * under the hammer * is kinda moot , and doesn't really effect anything .

    The moral equivalent to Condition 3 in an autoloader , would be to have empty the * first chamber that will rotate to under the hammer upon initial trigger cycling * .
     

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