REAL TIME Gun Bill Day Thread 2.25.19

[ezliving]

I wonder what the odds are that My sheriff AAC Jim Fredericks will speak.

Did Sheriff Fredericks stand up against the bill? Any public statements?

 

[Adolph Oliver Bush]

Yes.

 

[smkranz]

Delegate Susan Krebs (Carroll County) gave 2A supporters some props in her legislative update email yesterday.

"Gun Day" in Annapolis

Monday was "Gun Day" in the Maryland House of Delegates Judiciary Committee. Testimony was submitted and heard from over 2,000 Maryland constituents on 19 bills that included: a bill to regulate long guns - shotguns and rifles - like handguns, requiring a license and background checks by unlicensed sellers, gun storage and others.

Supporters and Opponents streamed into Annapolis and waited to testify at 10 AM with the hearing ending at 4:30 AM Tuesday morning- a record 18 hour hearing.

Most of the testimony was on HB786, regulating long guns, and came from opponents who argued that these bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. Maryland has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, yet Baltimore City has the highest murder rate in the nation.

The opponents argued long guns aren't a public safety risk because they are rarely used in homicides and that these types of laws do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country and asked lawmakers to consider legislation improving access to mental health care rather than creating a $3.4 million licensing system. In Maryland, there were two murders with a shotgun and two with a rifle while there were 368 murders with handguns, according to the MD State Police Uniform Crime Report.

HB740 would outlaw the possession, creation and sale of homemade 3D-printed guns and other firearms made after 1968 that don't have federally issued serial numbers. This is redundant because current federal law forbids possession of undetectable firearms.

A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.

The bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. These bills truly do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country. A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.​

[emphasis added]

So, she doesn't come out to say she will vote against the bills, and she needs an editor to clean up the redundancies. But hopefully she's learned her lesson from last year's vote in favor of HB 1302. Just in case, she needs to hear from us directly.

 

[rbird7282]

I have a custom letter on the way to Senator Ready. He apparently liked liked my testimony, turned his chair, smiled, and gave me a thumbs up. My own Senator (Guzzone) would take my guns already, please.

Guzzone is a POS. God I hate Howard County.


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[MEGARMS]

HB740 would outlaw the possession, creation and sale of homemade 3D-printed guns and other firearms made after 1968 that don't have federally issued serial numbers. This is redundant because current federal law forbids possession of undetectable firearms.

She also needs to realize not having a serial number and a gun being undetectable to a metal detector are not the same thing.

Susan, the reason this bill is no good is because it would instantaneously make felons out of thousands of otherwise law abiding Marylanders because they will refuse to dispose of their property that was obtained legally.

 

[Ammo Jon]

Delegate Susan Krebs (Carroll County) gave 2A supporters some props in her legislative update email yesterday.

"Gun Day" in Annapolis

Monday was "Gun Day" in the Maryland House of Delegates Judiciary Committee. Testimony was submitted and heard from over 2,000 Maryland constituents on 19 bills that included: a bill to regulate long guns - shotguns and rifles - like handguns, requiring a license and background checks by unlicensed sellers, gun storage and others.

Supporters and Opponents streamed into Annapolis and waited to testify at 10 AM with the hearing ending at 4:30 AM Tuesday morning- a record 18 hour hearing.

Most of the testimony was on HB786, regulating long guns, and came from opponents who argued that these bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. Maryland has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, yet Baltimore City has the highest murder rate in the nation.

The opponents argued long guns aren't a public safety risk because they are rarely used in homicides and that these types of laws do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country and asked lawmakers to consider legislation improving access to mental health care rather than creating a $3.4 million licensing system. In Maryland, there were two murders with a shotgun and two with a rifle while there were 368 murders with handguns, according to the MD State Police Uniform Crime Report.

HB740 would outlaw the possession, creation and sale of homemade 3D-printed guns and other firearms made after 1968 that don't have federally issued serial numbers. This is redundant because current federal law forbids possession of undetectable firearms.

A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.

The bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. These bills truly do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country. A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.​

[emphasis added]

So, she doesn't come out to say she will vote against the bills, and she needs an editor to clean up the redundancies. But hopefully she's learned her lesson from last year's vote in favor of HB 1302. Just in case, she needs to hear from us directly.

Anyway that Baltimore City could be treated as a separate entity from the rest of the state? Seems like people violence in Baltimore City is making life difficult for the rest of us.

 

[dist1646]

Delegate Susan Krebs (Carroll County) gave 2A supporters some props in her legislative update email yesterday.

"Gun Day" in Annapolis

Monday was "Gun Day" in the Maryland House of Delegates Judiciary Committee. Testimony was submitted and heard from over 2,000 Maryland constituents on 19 bills that included: a bill to regulate long guns - shotguns and rifles - like handguns, requiring a license and background checks by unlicensed sellers, gun storage and others.

Supporters and Opponents streamed into Annapolis and waited to testify at 10 AM with the hearing ending at 4:30 AM Tuesday morning- a record 18 hour hearing.

Most of the testimony was on HB786, regulating long guns, and came from opponents who argued that these bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. Maryland has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, yet Baltimore City has the highest murder rate in the nation.

The opponents argued long guns aren't a public safety risk because they are rarely used in homicides and that these types of laws do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country and asked lawmakers to consider legislation improving access to mental health care rather than creating a $3.4 million licensing system. In Maryland, there were two murders with a shotgun and two with a rifle while there were 368 murders with handguns, according to the MD State Police Uniform Crime Report.

HB740 would outlaw the possession, creation and sale of homemade 3D-printed guns and other firearms made after 1968 that don't have federally issued serial numbers. This is redundant because current federal law forbids possession of undetectable firearms.

A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.

The bills unnecessarily add to already strict regulations and inhibit law-abiding citizens. These bills truly do not get at the root of the violent shootings across our country. A gun is only a tool, not the perpetrator of a crime. I appreciate our citizens' advocacy and firmly believe in our 2nd amendment rights.

I support Governor Hogan's proposed bill HB236 Crimes - Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Crime of Violence or Felony - Penalties (The Repeat Firearms Offender Act of 2019) that was also heard, advocating for longer mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders using firearms in violent crimes.​

[emphasis added]

So, she doesn't come out to say she will vote against the bills, and she needs an editor to clean up the redundancies. But hopefully she's learned her lesson from last year's vote in favor of HB 1302. Just in case, she needs to hear from us directly.

Notice that there was crickets from her prior to the hearings! She could have put some alert info out beforehand but, she has been playing a game with us. She now knows that there are many of us in her district that have caught on to her and she is slowly beginning to feel some heat. Word to the wise, watch her closely, especially behind the scenes. Keep the heat on!

 

[rambling_one]

So, they increase the penalty and will likely continue to plead it down or simply ignore it.

 

[chinchong87]

Glad you guys were able to make it on both days. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to. However I finally
Joined MSI and I’ve been spreading the gospel at work and among my friends. Emailed and mailed my representatives as well

 

[Adolph Oliver Bush]

Glad you guys were able to make it on both days. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to. However I finally
Joined MSI and I’ve been spreading the gospel at work and among my friends. Emailed and mailed my representatives as well

Great news. And welcome!

 

[chinchong87]

Great news. And welcome!

Thanks! I’ve been here since 2009 just don’t post much.

 

[offthepaper]

Just wondering.
Is there a way for Members (and others) to purchase the "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" tee shirts?
It could become a decent fundraiser for the cause.
Imagine if you were to start seeing the WE WILL NOT COMPLY shirts as you travel around the state.
Similar to the Red MAGA hats you see around. Always a good visual message.
I'd wear it, not just at the MGA meets.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Just wondering.
Is there a way for Members (and others) to purchase the "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" tee shirts?
It could become a decent fundraiser for the cause.
Imagine if you were to start seeing the WE WILL NOT COMPLY shirts as you travel around the state.
Similar to the Red MAGA hats you see around. Always a good visual message.
I'd wear it, not just at the MGA meets.

Absolutely you can put in your order for a shirt here:

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=233076

Just leave us a post and will will PM with payment info for checks/Money orders and PayPal. Don't forget to specify how many and what size.

 

[swinokur]

Just wondering.
Is there a way for Members (and others) to purchase the "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" tee shirts?
It could become a decent fundraiser for the cause.
Imagine if you were to start seeing the WE WILL NOT COMPLY shirts as you travel around the state.
Similar to the Red MAGA hats you see around. Always a good visual message.
I'd wear it, not just at the MGA meets.

PM sent

 

[Racer Doug14]

Notice that there was crickets from her prior to the hearings! She could have put some alert info out beforehand but, she has been playing a game with us. She now knows that there are many of us in her district that have caught on to her and she is slowly beginning to feel some heat. Word to the wise, watch her closely, especially behind the scenes. Keep the heat on!

I had a long disappointing phone call with her last year. We discussed the "red flag" and bump stock bills last year. She's not the best Del. we could have. Maybe she is feeling the heat.

 

[budman93]

has there been any movement of any of the bills in committee? Just about a month till sine die. I haven't heard if anything had been recommended for a vote or not.

 

[tallen702]

Anyway that Baltimore City could be treated as a separate entity from the rest of the state? Seems like people violence in Baltimore City is making life difficult for the rest of us.

Ordinances instead of state-wide law would do it, but those in control in Baltimore want to make everyone pay for their chronic mismanagement of their own problems. I don't recall weather MD is like VA or WV where state law supersedes local law either (eg, VA towns can't enforce public carry laws that are more prohibitive than VA state laws on the matter).

 

[Malleovic]

has there been any movement of any of the bills in committee? Just about a month till sine die. I haven't heard if anything had been recommended for a vote or not.

I'm tracking 4 bills on the senate side and 5 bills in the house and I've not seen any movement yet. That includes things like transfers, HBARs, HPRB, and 3D printed/80%s.

 

[babalou]

Reverse

Ordinances instead of state-wide law would do it, but those in control in Baltimore want to make everyone pay for their chronic mismanagement of their own problems. I don't recall weather MD is like VA or WV where state law supersedes local law either (eg, VA towns can't enforce public carry laws that are more prohibitive than VA state laws on the matter).

What about less lenient than state law?

 

[Bertfish]

I'm tracking 4 bills on the senate side and 5 bills in the house and I've not seen any movement yet. That includes things like transfers, HBARs, HPRB, and 3D printed/80%s.

The thing that matters is cross over day. Even if they dont make it by cross over day Mike and Mike could shove them to a rules committee and jam them through anyways.