SB387 "Public Safety - Untraceable Firearms" - The Ban on Private Firearm Making

[teratos]

Can you do a go fund me or a kick starter or something ? I would happily donate to the upfront cost of setting up and then pay to have my stuff engraved. F Maryland its a crying shame regular people have to rally like this just to stay out of jail while all the scum bags get a free pass.

The biggest hurdle will be the FFL. We need a storefront. I have no intention of opening a gun shop, at least not now. I appreciate the GoFundMe idea. If this venture works out, I may consider doing that. I really want to give back to the community, and providing cheap engraving will help a lot of folks save a lot of money.

 

[Bertfish]

The biggest hurdle will be the FFL. We need a storefront. I have no intention of opening a gun shop, at least not now. I appreciate the GoFundMe idea. If this venture works out, I may consider doing that. I really want to give back to the community, and providing cheap engraving will help a lot of folks save a lot of money.

I know someone who rents an office in a Stack n Store. Dirt dirt cheap. Might be worth looking at

 

[Allen65]

The biggest hurdle will be the FFL. We need a storefront. I have no intention of opening a gun shop, at least not now. I appreciate the GoFundMe idea. If this venture works out, I may consider doing that. I really want to give back to the community, and providing cheap engraving will help a lot of folks save a lot of money.

Maybe there's a small FFL who'd be willing to sell out their business, one who was closing up shop soon to retire? Doesn't the license go with the corporation, not the individual(s) who own(s) it?

There might be a viable business model for a "compliance" FFL, one who specializes in knowing and helping Marylanders comply at reasonable cost with, Maryland's idiotic, incomprehensible maze of firearms regulations. No need for a any investment in inventory with that model.

It's sad I'd even need to think up something like this.

 

[Nickberg500]

FIFY

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Kind of tough to do given that it's currently 1 year and 13 days past the date you have listed......

Woops!

 

[teratos]

I know someone who rents an office in a Stack n Store. Dirt dirt cheap. Might be worth looking at

Good idea! I'll look. I have no intention of ever needing to store guns in a "shop". That should make it easier.

Maybe there's a small FFL who'd be willing to sell out their business, one who was closing up shop soon to retire? Doesn't the license go with the corporation, not the individual(s) who own(s) it?

There might be a viable business model for a "compliance" FFL, one who specializes in knowing and helping Marylanders comply at reasonable cost with, Maryland's idiotic, incomprehensible maze of firearms regulations. No need for a any investment in inventory with that model.

It's sad I'd even need to think up something like this.

FFL's aren't terribly tough if you check the right boxes. It's not like a commercial crabbing license.

If I get an FFL, I'll do an FFL07. Why not?

 

[Allen65]

FFL's aren't terribly tough if you check the right boxes. It's not like a commercial crabbing license.

If I get an FFL, I'll do an FFL07. Why not?

It just seems easier from an administrative standpoint to buy out an existing business. IIRC ATF won't issue an FFL unless you have all your ducks in a row on the business side (charter, zoning, state and local licenses, etc.). It just adds delay.

I assume that FFL07 will include SOT?

 

[hammer67]

The biggest hurdle will be the FFL. We need a storefront. I have no intention of opening a gun shop, at least not now. I appreciate the GoFundMe idea. If this venture works out, I may consider doing that. I really want to give back to the community, and providing cheap engraving will help a lot of folks save a lot of money.

You don't NEED a storefront, do you? I have been to FFL that are in their house. they had a separate area and we entered from rear of house. I think (but not sure) that there can't be access from the house? Or access has to locked? Does Harford county allow ffl in residential zoning? He was in Cecil.

 

[teratos]

I assume that FFL07 will include SOT?

Yeah. It seems like a waste, but I can afford it and I love this hobby.

You don't NEED a storefront, do you? I have been to FFL that are in their house. they had a separate area and we entered from rear of house. I think (but not sure) that there can't be access from the house? Or access has to locked? Does Harford county allow ffl in residential zoning? He was in Cecil.

Harford does not really allow home based FFL's to my knowledge. That would be ideal. It may be that I could be a "manufacturer" at home. I can sell one .22 suppressor each year. I've got a reasonable metal shop in my basement....

 

[RRomig]

ATF is acting like the engraving can be done by almost anyone. That may change by the time rubber hits the road but trophy shop was on the list.
Doc you may also check into getting with someone that’s already in business. My shop is probably too far from you and I don’t sell but I think you’d be an asset for someone that sells firearms.

 

[teratos]

ATF is acting like the engraving can be done by almost anyone. That may change by the time rubber hits the road but trophy shop was on the list.
Doc you may also check into getting with someone that’s already in business. My shop is probably too far from you and I don’t sell but I think you’d be an asset for someone that sells firearms.

Do you happen to know if I can get on an FFL and still do manufacturing work at home? I have a few ideas for suppressors that I need to prototype. If I had a SOT, I might actually manufacture some things.
The engraving thing would be easy. I've hinted around with some of my acquaintances who have FFL's. Nobody bites...

 

[Squaregrouper]

Yeah. It seems like a waste, but I can afford it and I love this hobby.


Harford does not really allow home based FFL's to my knowledge. That would be ideal. It may be that I could be a "manufacturer" at home. I can sell one .22 suppressor each year. I've got a reasonable metal shop in my basement....

May I suggest "Goodhair Can Company" for your suppressor company?

 

[hammer67]

ATF is acting like the engraving can be done by almost anyone. That may change by the time rubber hits the road but trophy shop was on the list.
Doc you may also check into getting with someone that’s already in business. My shop is probably too far from you and I don’t sell but I think you’d be an asset for someone that sells firearms.

couple years ago I was calling around trying to see about getting some serial numbers on 80's and I did find places that could do it that were not gun related stores. I figured if getting number I should just have it meet ATF regs just in case and they could do that. Some would not do it if was already cut, because then it is firearm. but right now I bet you could get trophy shop to do uncut 80. But that will likely change with new regs. Although how is trophy shop going to know that an uncut 80 is now a firearm?? Hell, a lot of gun owners will have no idea. Not like they send out something to every person that ever filled out 4473. ignorance is no defense, but seems crazy they make people criminals and don't even inform them of law changes. If it weren't for this forum, many would have no idea.

 

[RRomig]

The way I understand it is you can make pieces but the assembly would need to take place at the shop. That was from a conversation with an agent when I first started. I seldom mess with making anymore. Thompson is next on the list though. Can’t wait. Going to the open house in a couple weeks to suck up on some knowledge.
Let me add with all the new verbiage coming soon I’d wait to see it before I did anything. Like I said they seem to be towards making it easier to get the engraving done.

 

[DC-W]

SB387 was special ordered to be considered tomorrow.

 

[Allen65]

SB387 was special ordered to be considered tomorrow.

Hmmm. Special ordered twice. That implies they're not simply removing the Senate amendments to placate the House ideologues, but are actually having to think. I still have little doubt they'll pass something called a Ghost Gun Bill, but maybe what results will have a little better connection to reality than the execrable House draft.

 

[Dingo3]

Sarcasm

Has anyone spoken with GymRatz about buying his shop and license?

Sarcasm

 

[cantstop]

Sarcasm

Has anyone spoken with GymRatz about buying his shop and license?

Sarcasm

Talk to the hand mom.

 

[Decoy]

SB387 was special ordered to be considered tomorrow.

Does this mean they are stripping out all the amendments?

 

[Bertfish]

SB387 was special ordered to be considered tomorrow.

What do you think is going on?

Won't they sometimes special order bills if they have insufficient time to get to them?

 

[cantstop]

@Doctor T. Have you spoken to The Devil Himself? I'm sure he'd support a Duffer like yourself.