Is this a good deal or should I avoid it?

[yellowsled]

I still stand by what I said, I would offer $200. I personally dont think they are worth more.

 

[reverendbeer]

I finally got a chance to go look at those mausers today. They were Mitchell's. They looked really nice tho. One had a few nazi markings on it but you could tell its really been worked on. The other had what looked like Russian markings on it and looked alot nicer IMO. The nazi one looked like it had 2 riflings in the barrel. It just didnt look right. Now mind you I am by far no expert. The russian(?) had a nice clean looking rifling and the bolt handle was angled down to allow for a scope.

If you just want a good shooter and have ZERO interest in collectability, then by all means, go for it and offer the guy a couple hundred for the one with the bent bolt...that way you can put a scope on it.

 

[tommy gunn]

I'm still debating it in my head. I would love to have a real one but I also want one I can shoot the hell out of and not worry about destroying any historic value. Plus side is Mitchell's already did that part for me. I'll think on it some more then see how low I can get him. I kinda need a new safe. I'm on the verge of out growing my current one.

 

[KMK1862]

Some collectors snub the RC's. All of the K98ks in my collection are RCs. So what? If you know what to look for, there is nothing wrong with an RC. Spend a few bucks to replace the sight hood, cleaning rod, and capture screws and you've restored the rifle to it's German wartime config. If you know your Mausers, you can get a good price.

I picked up a K98k RC at the Howard County show for $350. All German Waffenamts and firing proofs intact, barrel looks great, and it was the correct cupped buttplate stock for later production. $50 later and it's been restored to WW2 condition.

 

[tommy gunn]

Well I offered him 200 and he said ok. I bought the nicer one of the 2. According to the paperwork that came with it it is a Yugoslavian m48. If the c.o.a. that came with is real and truthful it was never issued and all the numbers match from what I can tell. My comp is acting stupid so I can't put up any pics. I'll try again tomarrow. Now I just need to get my hands on some ammo cause I really want to shoot it.

 

[yellowsled]

Congrats!

 

[reverendbeer]

According to the paperwork that came with it it is a Yugoslavian m48. If the c.o.a. that came with is real and truthful it was never issued and all the numbers match from what I can tell.

Who was the approving authority on the COA?

 

[yellowsled]

Mitchels?

 

[tommy gunn]

Ya I guess it's Mitchell's. I can't read the name of the " curator" on the bottom. That's why I put "if it's real and truthful". I don't really care too much if it is or isn't. I got it to be a shooter anyways. As long as it goes bang I'm happy. Lol.

 

[MilsurpDan]

Sounds like you got a good price for a shooter

 

[tommy gunn]

Got the stupid pics to load. So here she is. I don't know why the one pic came out lighter than the other. It was take the same way as the other. All I did was open the bolt and flip it over.

I'm gonna go with the c.o.a . is crap. It says the rifle was made in the 40's with all matching parts but it has m48a stamped on it. According to wikkipedia if it's accurate Yugoslavian m48a's were made in the 50's. I don't know. There is a bunch of writing with a 44 after it and it's hard to see in the pic but the Yugoslavian crest on it has 1943 on it. Oh well. It's gonna get as much Ammo down its tube as I can my hands on.

 

[Dave91]

Got the stupid pics to load. So here she is. I don't know why the one pic came out lighter than the other. It was take the same way as the other. All I did was open the bolt and flip it over. View attachment 100567 View attachment 100568

I'm gonna go with the c.o.a . is crap. It says the rifle was made in the 40's with all matching parts but it has m48a stamped on it. According to wikkipedia if it's accurate Yugoslavian m48a's were made in the 50's. I don't know. There is a bunch of writing with a 44 after it and it's hard to see in the pic but the Yugoslavian crest on it has 1943 on it. Oh well. It's gonna get as much Ammo down its tube as I can my hands on. View attachment 100569 View attachment 100570 View attachment 100571

The COA is crap, but you still got a very nice rifle.

 

[yellowsled]

Bingo...

 

[why2kmax]

your third pic. Thats "Preduzeche 44" which I think is factory or "Institute" #44, the main Yugoslav arms works at Kragujevac in present day Serbia I think still in operation as Zastava Cresna arms. The Yugos reworked whatever German rifles they had after the war so yours might have started life as a Cherman gun in the 40s and was rearsenaled in the 50s . Is there any number after the MOD 98K (if there is one) sometimes that gives an indication of year ? Cant make out the 4 letters to the left of that.

Edit: Its been almost 20 yrs since I did Yugo stuff, google "Preduzece 44" or a variant with the "h" in it and you should find some more info.

 

[reverendbeer]

A decent rundown on the M48 (and a few others).

Interesting comment: "The turned down bolt and stock cut-out of the M48 made it resemble the K98k to the untrained eye, and some unscrupulous individuals have used this to their advantage over the years to deceive [...] These folks have stretched the truth in advertising, often referring to these rifles as 98ks, which is inaccurate. Mitchell's Mausers, a company of somewhat ill repute in collector's circles, also advertised these rifles as having teakwood stocks. Because everyone knows about the vast, lush teak forests of Yugoslavia, right?"

 

[why2kmax]

Mitchells may have messed with the history and collectibility, but if it shoots straight, you got a helluva nice rifle for $200. Sometimes thats all that matters

 

[tommy gunn]

Mitchells may have messed with the history and collectibility, but if it shoots straight, you got a helluva nice rifle for $200. Sometimes thats all that matters

In the end that's all I want. Yes I collect guns but I don't collect for the investment. I do it just to have fun and shoot em. No matter how much it's been screwed with its still a m48 Mauser I didn't have before.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Its a good deal, everyone has a value and a price. Thats not bad if the bore is good, it headspaces and shoots. Everyone needs a shooter Mauser.

 

[yellowsled]

Loose the COA and the value of that rifle will double.

 

[Dave91]

Speaking of Mausers and good deals not wanting to make a new thread, WTF is going on in this auction? That is approaching the price of a matching example. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=372613227