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  • StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,945
    What does being subject to the UCMJ have to be targeted by isis? LOL
    You need help. A pity placard person like you offends me not. You've got the wrong guy there drunk boy. Report you to who?

    But you seem like a great guy to work for. I bet you got a ton of applicants from your jobs board post.

    You mad bro? :lol2:
     

    USAFRavenR6

    Active Member
    Apr 7, 2012
    734
    Mur-land
    What does being subject to the UCMJ have to be targeted by isis? LOL
    You need help. A pity placard person like you offends me not. You've got the wrong guy there drunk boy. Report you to who?

    But you seem like a great guy to work for. I bet you got a ton of applicants from your jobs board post.

    Bro........ you mad still???

    You cant even follow what has been said in this thread. We are discussing what "while in service means." If he is subjected to the UCMJ, hes in service, period. Just know that we are receiving permits based on these threats, laugh all you want, the OP is the first to show up and state he received his. Hows that make you feel? Sucks to be wrong.

    Dude, you know what I said is right, keep playing dumb. Just know that there are a lot of people here who not only know it, but use you as a punchline often via PM.

    I'm not the one who looks like a tool, you are. You post up garbage and passive aggressive crap about "credentials." At the end of the day, I actually got a lot of people shooting me resumes. I also dont primarly use MDS as a source of recruiting, I though it would be nice to help the community out prior to hitting up job boards, you know help some like minded people out, unlike yourself. Thanks for remembering me in that thread actually, it shows you are quite the fan of me and also have 0 life outside of this message board. I guess your post count already said that but now its more than confirmed.

    Bye Felicia, I have wasted too much time on you tonight. Enjoy those "credentials" chump.
     

    USAFRavenR6

    Active Member
    Apr 7, 2012
    734
    Mur-land
    Back on topic.........


    Congrats OP. Glad you got the permit and please tell everyone you work with to apply. The more people who receive permits and get them, the better.
     

    Straightshooter

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 28, 2010
    5,015
    Baltimore County
    My MP friend is going to spread the word to his buddies. I hope every one of them apply and are approved. Now, on to trying to get a farmer friend approved. The fight continues.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
     

    Blaster229

    God loves you, I don't.
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 14, 2010
    46,825
    Glen Burnie
    Bro........ you mad still???

    You cant even follow what has been said in this thread. We are discussing what "while in service means." If he is subjected to the UCMJ, hes in service, period. Just know that we are receiving permits based on these threats, laugh all you want, the OP is the first to show up and state he received his. Hows that make you feel? Sucks to be wrong.

    Dude, you know what I said is right, keep playing dumb. Just know that there are a lot of people here who not only know it, but use you as a punchline often via PM.

    I'm not the one who looks like a tool, you are. You post up garbage and passive aggressive crap about "credentials." At the end of the day, I actually got a lot of people shooting me resumes. I also dont primarly use MDS as a source of recruiting, I though it would be nice to help the community out prior to hitting up job boards, you know help some like minded people out, unlike yourself. Thanks for remembering me in that thread actually, it shows you are quite the fan of me and also have 0 life outside of this message board. I guess your post count already said that but now its more than confirmed.

    Bye Felicia, I have wasted too much time on you tonight. Enjoy those "credentials" chump.

    Quoting this for historical reference. LOL
     

    USAFRavenR6

    Active Member
    Apr 7, 2012
    734
    Mur-land
    I was merely agreeing with NavyCraig who was giving an example to young padewan P5 about everyday soldiers being targeted by ISIS and not just high up spooks and the like.

    I totally agree that everyone associated with .mil or .gov or private sector contractors who hold TS clearances who were involved in the OPM hack has their G&S.

    Thanks. Look, back with O'Malley in office and the HPRB members he appointed this would not hold water. Nothing would actually. But the playing field has changed and the board members are looking for G&S reason. Like I said before, while its a stretch, its still a valid reason. Check the box, articulate the reasons with supporting documentation, and wait to be denied by the MSP. Afterwards, apply for an in person hearing and make the MSP defend their position where as anyone affected by this breach only needs to support their position as why its G&S. The MSP can not show up and say that's its not a valid reason, therefore denied. When in front of the board, its not that game anymore.

    When the permits start to come in, everyone needs to tell their co workers about it and get them to apply. We should be flooding the MSP with applicants at that point. The more people with permits the better as it disproves the "blood in the streets" argument that the general assembly has taken for years. During this time, public perception will also change slowly. Think about it, Ft. Meade is the number one place of employment in the state, I personally have no less than 50 people waiting on the outcome of my HPRB in order to apply. When I get the green light, as the OP has, the flood gates are open. Mark my words.
     

    Schipperke

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    18,830
    Bro........ you mad still???

    You cant even follow what has been said in this thread. We are discussing what "while in service means." If he is subjected to the UCMJ, hes in service, period. Just know that we are receiving permits based on these threats, laugh all you want, the OP is the first to show up and state he received his. Hows that make you feel? Sucks to be wrong.

    Dude, you know what I said is right, keep playing dumb. Just know that there are a lot of people here who not only know it, but use you as a punchline often via PM.

    I'm not the one who looks like a tool, you are. You post up garbage and passive aggressive crap about "credentials." At the end of the day, I actually got a lot of people shooting me resumes. I also dont primarly use MDS as a source of recruiting, I though it would be nice to help the community out prior to hitting up job boards, you know help some like minded people out, unlike yourself. Thanks for remembering me in that thread actually, it shows you are quite the fan of me and also have 0 life outside of this message board. I guess your post count already said that but now its more than confirmed.

    Bye Felicia, I have wasted too much time on you tonight. Enjoy those "credentials" chump.

    I take "in service" like when I see an army convoy on the road, or on duty somewhere off the base. However, I do like the weasel way it is being interpreted, and ambiguity goes against who wrote it.. so fantastically played.
     

    USAFRavenR6

    Active Member
    Apr 7, 2012
    734
    Mur-land
    I take "in service" like when I see an army convoy on the road, or on duty somewhere off the base. However, I do like the weasel way it is being interpreted, and ambiguity goes against who wrote it.. so fantastically played.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was always under the impression that while on orders or maneuvers, you were covered to carry a weapon from a federal perspective.
     

    Schipperke

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    18,830
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was always under the impression that while on orders or maneuvers, you were covered to carry a weapon from a federal perspective.

    So a Maryland CCW is superfluous.. How about working a recruitment center in a strip mall in Maryland? Covered there?
     

    USAFRavenR6

    Active Member
    Apr 7, 2012
    734
    Mur-land
    I'm thinking no. I'm sure the space in the strip mall is leased by .mil

    Even with the cve, military members are not cleared to carry here either. Recruiting is also a very specific assignment. What the restriction says is while in service. As long as he's military, he's covered.
     

    HeatSeeker

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 18, 2012
    3,058
    Maryland
    A 42-minute audio recording by an ISIS spokesman was released on social media Sunday, in which the group calls on Muslims to kill civilians in countries that belong to the anti-ISIS, U.S.-led coalition.

    "If you can kill a disbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian or any other disbeliever, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be," an ISIS spokesman says. This report is from September 2014, but obviously still relevant. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/isis-recording-urges-muslims-kill-civilians-us-led/story?id=25669372

    They are told to not differentiate between Military and civilians. So if those in the military can use the threat of being targeted by ISIS as G&S then why isn't this same threat G&S for us civilians? I fully respect all of you that serve, but given the recent attacks around the world it does not seem to me that military personnel are more at risk of a terror attack then civilians. In fact, given the outcome of these recent attacks, it seems just the opposite.
     

    Blaster229

    God loves you, I don't.
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 14, 2010
    46,825
    Glen Burnie
    Even with the cve, military members are not cleared to carry here either. Recruiting is also a very specific assignment. What the restriction says is while in service. As long as he's military, he's covered.

    You aren't active duty military, right?

    But maybe you need to shut your trap on this thread right now before you get the deep ban.
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,945
    Damn!!!!! Just when things were getting interesting. Welp time for me to read 30 pages of a crappy book!
     

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    Blaster229

    God loves you, I don't.
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 14, 2010
    46,825
    Glen Burnie
    I love this cute little angry permit holder, contractor, non active duty military boy. He's got enthusiasm.
     

    5.56blaster

    Ultimate Member
    My MP friend is going to spread the word to his buddies. I hope every one of them apply and are approved. Now, on to trying to get a farmer friend approved. The fight continues.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

    If they are MP's or USAF Security Forces they are covered under LEOSA. (All military LEO's are as of 2013) USAF and US Army can apply at www.leosaonline.com. I'm retired Security Forces and have had my credentials for a year. Takes about 30 days to process and is good for 5 years. No need to fool around with Maryland's BS and its good in any state. 926b is $160 and 926c(retired) is around $175 and $75 to renew. Feel free to contact me if you need anymore info or a POC.
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,584
    If I were King...

    In Service = Any person, working full time or reserve, while on duty OR available for call-up to immediate duty.

    Police and Military Members are ALWAYS on call.

    But, then again... I would not be requiring any permit scheme for anyone to exercise their COTUS 2A rights. :shrug: It is just plain WRONG.

    Criminals be damned... The penalty for using a firearm in any crime, would be so severe that even crazy people would forego the idea. :cool:

    At any rate... we are not settling anything about it in this thread.

    OP, congrats on getting permission... And may others benefit from your experience. :thumbsup:

    :outta her
     

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