Montgomery County Council Receives Briefing on Juvenile Justice, Crime, and Public Safety Issues

[Sunrise]

Agenda:

https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=15952

Staff Report: https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=15952&meta_id=166729

Hearing Video/Audio is available here: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/ondemand/index.html

PS Committee Worksession

Oct 30, 2023

02h 15m

Lots to read and digest here.

 

[RFBfromDE]

"When a child under the age of 18 commits a crime, the child is generally referred to the State juvenile justice system. Unlike the adult criminal justice system, which can be punitive in nature, the juvenile justice system’s goal is to focus on the child’s needs by providing support and rehabilitative services. Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

20 pages later and I did not see any documentation as to the recidivism rate for younger offenders.

Lies.

 

[Afrikeber]

Yikes, did a first pass. Now going to do a more through 2nd reading.

 

[mpollan1]

"When a child under the age of 18 commits a crime, the child is generally referred to the State juvenile justice system. Unlike the adult criminal justice system, which can be punitive in nature, the juvenile justice system’s goal is to focus on the child’s needs by providing support and rehabilitative services. Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

20 pages later and I did not see any documentation as to the recidivism rate for younger offenders.

Lies.

They just need more funding. If they had more funding they could solve the problem that insufficient funding is clearly causing.

 

[Afrikeber]

Juvenile crime beginning to surge after COVID to pre COVID levels. Child abuse is down 67%. Carjacking levels up over 200%.

I wonder if there is a correlation there.

 

[mpollan1]

Juvenile crime beginning to surge after COVID to pre COVID levels. Child abuse is down 67%. Carjacking levels up over 200%.

I wonder if there is a correlation there.

How are the prosecution/conviction numbers. I'll go with inversely correlated Alex for $1000.

 

[Sunrise]

"When a child under the age of 18 commits a crime, the child is generally referred to the State juvenile justice system. Unlike the adult criminal justice system, which can be punitive in nature, the juvenile justice system’s goal is to focus on the child’s needs by providing support and rehabilitative services. Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

20 pages later and I did not see any documentation as to the recidivism rate for younger offenders.

Lies.

We’ve got sociopathic juvenile criminals that are 12 (bomb threat kid) going on 24 in addition to those who are 13 going on 30. They are well aware that they’re taking advantage of the decency of the system.

It’s time for the system to be punitive.

 

[Sunrise]

They just need more funding. If they had more funding they could solve the problem that insufficient funding is clearly causing.

Government never met a problem that it didn’t try to solve with more money.

 

[Troublesbrewin]

Government never met a problem that it didn’t try to solve with more money.

And fail miserably...

 

[mpollan1]

And fail miserably...

Because they don't get enough money. It's so obvious to them...

 

[rbird7282]

They just need more funding. If they had more funding they could solve the problem that insufficient funding is clearly causing.

LOL, sounds just like the Democrats answer for schools.......and everything else. Of course, nothing ever improves because of their ideas

 

[Biggfoot44]

"When a child under the age of 18 commits a crime, the child is generally referred to the State juvenile justice system. Unlike the adult criminal justice system, which can be punitive in nature, the juvenile justice system’s goal is to focus on the child’s needs by providing support and rehabilitative services. Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

20 pages later and I did not see any documentation as to the recidivism rate for younger offenders.

Lies.

First two sentences are just the basic definition of the Juvenile Justice system , in general . Statement of fact .

The third sentence is a wish and a hope .

 

[Sunrise]

First two sentences are just the basic definition of the Juvenile Justice system , in general . Statement of fact .

The third sentence is a wish and a hope .

Probably good enough for the Montgomery County Council.

 

[Mightydog]

And in the meantime 13 year olds fvck around and find out like the 13 year old car hijacker did and got shot and killed by the owner. That’s rehabilitative enough for me!

 

[RFBfromDE]

First two sentences are just the basic definition of the Juvenile Justice system , in general . Statement of fact .

The third sentence is a wish and a hope .

The facts keep pissing in their ideals.

"Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

 

[Afrikeber]

Looks like Montgomery County has a new solution. Now the victims get victimized twice with “Community Confrencing”

‘This is a crisis’: Montgomery Co. panel explores juvenile crime, possible actions

‘This is a crisis’: Montgomery Co. panel explores juvenile crime, possible actions - WTOP News

While juvenile crime statewide is below pre-pandemic levels, the numbers for particular offenses are way up, according to the Montgomery County State’s Attorney.

wtop.com

 

[mpollan1]

The facts keep pissing in their ideals.

"Ideally, this approach helps positively reintegrate the child into society and reduces or even eliminates recidivism."

Ideals, the cornerstone of liberal failures.

 

[RFBfromDE]

"Last week, a high school student was found with a firearm at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda. On the same day, students at Fairland Elementary School found a gun in a trash can on campus."

Hunter Biden, AGAIN!

 

[Afrikeber]

A new concept from you guessed it California…..
Sounds to me like the COURTS want to bounce this problem back on the community impacted.
https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/BTB24-2C-01.pdf

 

[RFBfromDE]

Looks like Montgomery County has a new solution. Now the victims get victimized twice with “Community Confrencing”

‘This is a crisis’: Montgomery Co. panel explores juvenile crime, possible actions

‘This is a crisis’: Montgomery Co. panel explores juvenile crime, possible actions - WTOP News

While juvenile crime statewide is below pre-pandemic levels, the numbers for particular offenses are way up, according to the Montgomery County State’s Attorney.

wtop.com

FEAR NOT!

"Mink said a victim need not appear in the community conferencing program, although she said that’s how it “works best.” But, she added, “a group from the community” can serve as a proxy for the victim “and engage in the conversation with the person who committed the harm.”