Need suggestions on survival gun purchase

[Doctor_M]

Probably not the right answer for this post (because it is not compact and is expensive)... but I think I have a new response to the age old question, if you could only carry out one gun with you... MK1 Crossfire combo gun... accepts AR mags and has a 4 shot 12 guage... I think I'm in love!

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Probably not the right answer for this post (because it is not compact and is expensive)... but I think I have a new response to the age old question, if you could only carry out one gun with you... MK1 Crossfire combo gun... accepts AR mags and has a 4 shot 12 guage... I think I'm in love!

But heavy and cumbersome cdnn recently cleared out a hidden nest of them

 

[Paper Puncher]

Probably not the right answer for this post (because it is not compact and is expensive)... but I think I have a new response to the age old question, if you could only carry out one gun with you... MK1 Crossfire combo gun... accepts AR mags and has a 4 shot 12 guage... I think I'm in love!

Cool gun but lots o problems if I remember...

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Great looking 22

May be ugly, now if they do a double badger over and under it may be a viable alternative to the m6 but lighter

 

[Pinecone]

Maybe find a nice drilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_gun#Drillings

The perfect survival version would be two rifle, one shotgun barrel. With one center fire rifle (.223 or .308) and one rimfire (.22LR) and 12 or 20 gauge shotgun.

Covers small game, birds, large game and limited self defense.

 

[jimbobborg]

If you're hunting small game with any firearm you're not going to survive for long. Any report from a firearm will be heard. I'd suggest you learn how to make snares and traps for small game and save the rifle for a bigger caliber JIC for bigger game/people.

 

[Pinecone]

Surviving doesn't automatically mean evading.

 

[JosephIV]

I think that all of the guns in question are great suggestions. If I were truly thinking of survival and self preservation I would buy a Mossberg 500 Cruiser/Persuader and add a folding stock from Choate or such. Cost should be in the $400-$450 range total if you shop around. I think I'd go 20 gauge. The gun would be around 29" folded which isn't an issue since the barrel comes off easily just like survival take-downs. Weight would be within 2 lbs of the AR-7 and ammo selection is great even in 20 gauge. From 00 buck (8 shot) to 400+ grain slugs it can do it. Add 6 shot capacity to the mix and it's the gun I'd take.

If you're going to consider small caliber take-down rifles in single shot why not consider a shotgun that is as easily taken apart, holds more rounds, and has more takedown power and versatility? Where I'm from in PA we have black bear and I'm 99.9% certain that I've seen a big cat in the area though it may have been indicative of a rare instance and not the presence of a breeding population. I'll take 20 gauge over .22 or .223 because of that.

 

[Pinecone]

Just say a nice setup. Over and under, 12 ga over .30-06.

 

[accokeek]

I am looking to buy and survival type backpack rifle. So far I believe the Ruger 10/22 takedown is the best. However, I also have seen, but not shot the Henry Survival rifle Ar7 which is $100 less than the ruger. Any other suggestions? Thought on the Henry as far as reliability and accuracy.....I know the Ar7 has no front stock which I think may be a bit awkward to shoot.
The takedown Ruger is really nice at a reasonable price and will most likely be my choice. I just want to make sure I didn't overlook any other makes that are worth looking into.

Thanks,

While this may be OBE, and only a variation on what some others have suggested. The Savage 24M, which is a .22WMR and a 20ga, makes a very nice and flexible survival rifle. The combination works very well for small game and with #1 buckshot or slugs could serve for either larger game or defense.

 

[sxs]

How about a pellet rifle? Quiet, won't alert "scavengers", will put protein on the table.
Maybe a Crosman backpacker with a 14-24 inch barrel? Breaks down into 2 easy parts. And you can carry a $hitload of ammo in your pocket. Not too great for self defense though.

LOL! My pellet rifles aren't at all quiet. They make about as much noice as a .22 standard velocity round from a rifle. You want quiet, us CCI long CB caps (short ones work too - but long ones are less likely to have feeding problems). Only issue with long CBs in an auto loader, is you'll have to work the bolt by hand. The rounds won't cycle a semi-auto action. I usually shoot them from a bolt or one of my lever actions.

 

[fidelity]

I think that all of the guns in question are great suggestions. If I were truly thinking of survival and self preservation I would buy a Mossberg 500 Cruiser/Persuader and add a folding stock from Choate or such. Cost should be in the $400-$450 range total if you shop around. I think I'd go 20 gauge. The gun would be around 29" folded which isn't an issue since the barrel comes off easily just like survival take-downs. Weight would be within 2 lbs of the AR-7 and ammo selection is great even in 20 gauge. From 00 buck (8 shot) to 400+ grain slugs it can do it. Add 6 shot capacity to the mix and it's the gun I'd take.

If you're going to consider small caliber take-down rifles in single shot why not consider a shotgun that is as easily taken apart, holds more rounds, and has more takedown power and versatility? Where I'm from in PA we have black bear and I'm 99.9% certain that I've seen a big cat in the area though it may have been indicative of a rare instance and not the presence of a breeding population. I'll take 20 gauge over .22 or .223 because of that.

Great post. Been hankering to add a 20 gauge to my .22(s) and .223. Bears and big cats. Apparently the mountain lion is having a mini resurgence in different parts of the country. An ample Eastern deer population has to help.

 

[AlpineDude67]

Actually, I think it depends on the airgun as to how loud they get. I totally agree that those springer style ones are loud. But some of the higher end PCP ones are very quiet. I don't own one, they are too rich for my blood, but if I were seriously worried about an extended SHTF situation, I would probably get one.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Marauder_Air_Rifle/1774

You definitely would not want to carry that anywhere, too big and heavy. But if you are holed up somewhere and need to quietly hunt small game, this would be an outstanding choice. You can recharge it using a special, high pressure bicycle pump and the pellets are incredibly cheap. You could stockpile decades worth of pellets for under $100.

I am surprised these things aren't more popular with the prepper crowd, it seems like they are just what they want. Maybe they are worried about reliability? I have no idea whether the seals and such on something like this would eventually fail and render the gun inoperative or not.

 

[wequay]

I have a 10/22 takedown which is supposedly the most accurate of the survival rifles. But if I wanted something for backpacking/boating/light weight hiking, I'd probably go with AR7 by Henry. There are some pretty good torture test videos out there and it holds up. Not the sharpest at 50 or 100 yards, but for survival, I'd probably go with the Henry.

 

[johnnyb2]

Go to WWW.MAJESTICARMS.COM and check out the MA 4 M.a.r.r.s. and check out their multi caliber take down rifle, it looks interesting. Very interesting.

 

[clay_shooter]

ATI AR takedown. Saw one at Chantilly.
http://www.americantactical.us/5024/detail.html

 

[Jimbob2.0]

ATI AR takedown. Saw one at Chantilly.
http://www.americantactical.us/5024/detail.html

I dont see how that does much more than a standard AR?

I mean the AR is a decent takedown, take a lightweight pencil barrel on an upper, lower, collapsible stock with as thin of profile possible (Magpul MOE is probably pretty close) and add one of those folding pistolgrips that were coming out of Israel a while back and you have something very packable for really few bucks.

However, one item I forgot is the TNW Aero's available in 9mm through .45 ACP. Pretty nifty design basically built like a cross between an AR and Tec 9. $ for $ id sooner have the Keltec but its something to think about.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/tn...emi-auto-45acp-1625-barrel-27-rnd-black-56995

 

[Boxcab]

Would anyone consider an M1 Carbine? Nice size, but not a takedown. Ammo is unique. They tend to be pricey, but they are a well proven design.

 

[PresentArms]

I picked this one up last year just because it was different. The guy I purchased it from said it was a survival rife. I found a little info on it..
FIREARMS INTERNATIONAL CORP made the "Bronco" in 1967 in the old Beretta (USA) plant in Accokeek, MD..

 

[hacktracker]

I'd also have a serious look at the Handi rifle. They come in a million calibers, are small, light weight, inexpensive, and fun to shoot. I have one in 300 Blackout and love it.

This would be an excellent rifle in 7.62x39 since 300BLK is $$$ and tough to find.