20ravens52
Active Member
So so so true.
I second that
So so so true.
And no pension, no 20 personal days off, no 10 paid holidays, no 20 years and out and no getting dug in like a tick where you can't be canned
Standing by for the obligatory statement: "If it's so great why then don't you apply?"
If it's so great and you feel you are getting screwed jump on the gravy train.
There's no reason government shouldn't have to make some of the same very painful decisions that the private sector has.
I'm retiring from the US government on 1/7/2016 but my last job wasn't my only job. Starting in high school, I have been a store custodian(floor sweeper), mechanic, soldier, sheriff deputy, County Mounty, Navy civilian, NJANG, maintenance manger, and federal employee. Additionally, I had side businesses as a gunsmith, and a small engine repair shop through most of my working life.
At several times, I worked two jobs at the same time not counting ANG or gunsmithing.
I have had better and worse jobs on both sides. I changed jobs for better positions, better pay or for better quality of life. The point is that I was willing to make changes to get a better deal. I have moved out of, in and around the country to do what I wanted. My pay and benefits went up and down depending on what job I had, the condition of the economy and my employers corporate health.
Today, I find the young people 1) are not interested in moving to get a better paying job, 2) think you are nuts when you tell them to get a second job if needed to make ends meet and 3) feel like whomever they are working for currently owes them a better salary and better benefits without them doing anymore for it.
I always ask them if someone was holding a gun to their head to insure they took their current job.
109 days and a wake up and I am gone! I hope to join the Reserve Officer corp at DNR so I can have fun while giving back to the people that have given to me.
Private sector- Took massive pay cut to keep the doors open when the housing market collapsed.
Government- We didn't get a raise this year.
Private sector- Health insurance cost up 400% , deductible up 500%. Add another 20% on top of that this year!
Government- You're kidding, right???
Private sector- What is a vacation?
Government- We only have 8 weeks!
Private sector- Sick day? Boss says you had better be in intensive care and we want at least 2 weeks notice!
Government- Sick day? How about 15 days and you can even cash them in or use them toward early retirement.
Private sector- Lunch break? What is that?!
Government- An hour give or take an hour.
Private sector- Restroom break. Go before you leave home in the morning before your 10-12 hour day.
Government- Do you want the newspaper or a magazine to read?
Private sector- Retirement? Ha, ha, ha, ha! You have got to be kidding me!
Government- Sure thing! If we can't afford to pay what we promise you, we'll just raise taxes on the private sector.
If being a government employee is so bad, why is it that no government employees are clamoring to get into the private sector?
welcome to the real world
If it's so great and you feel you are getting screwed jump on the gravy train.
I also don't get the complaining.
The majority of private sector jobs have a corresponding .Gov job.
To include house keeping, tow truck driver, mechanic, I.T. Help Desk, secretary, accounting, lawyer, general maintenance, grounds keeping, nurses, Dr.'s, and on and on.
If it's so great and you feel you are getting screwed jump on the gravy train.
A lot of people cannot, or rather don't want to, function in a .gov environment. It's antithetical to our work ethic. I know plenty of .gov employees who work hard but 100% of them are frustrated at the sloths they work with as well as all the waste.
The .gov employment scheme is unsustainable.
If everyone did that, who would:
Make the parts to build the train?
Build the train?
Maintain the train?
Lay the tracks?
Build the train Station?
Provide fuel for the train?
Make the gravy?
The list goes on...
Someone has to produce for those who enjoy the ride!