WE JUST WON BRUEN

[Jim12]

Sad... NY Gov Hokum saying, "They have removed our right to unreasonable restrictions"??!

Idiot.

Fixed it for her.

Asked for comment, President Brandon replied, "Frimerkksvbitm."

 

[frogman68]

I agree. I just texted somebody that the first person denied a CCW in Maryland because of a lack of good and substantial should file suit immediately. He was asking if Hogan will change the requirement overnight. Told him that Hogan should. He think that Hogan will drag his feet. Personally, I think this gives Hogan a reason to change it overnight and I am guessing, based upon Hogan's relaxation of CCW requirements for business owners, that Hogan wants to change it overnight. We shall see what Hogan does.

Mustache boy has already come out and said nothing will be changed in MD until he reads the decision.


The way I understand it is that Lawn Chair Larry makes the decision and if sh!tbag wants to stop him he would have to sue

 

[MikeSP]

A good and substantial reason is no longer a reason to deny your CCW.

My guess is that licensing is the next thing to be litigated. Should people have to pay money and be licensed to exercise a Constitutional Right? CCW, HQL. Wish they would do away with both licensing schemes that are barriers to exercising one's Right.

So at this point if you have never applied, just do the 16 hour training, then apply minus G&S?

 

[JPG]

How can Maryland still require a HQL to purchase an item which is, by SCOTUS ruling, that person’s COTUS right to carry?

Bye bye 2013. Bye bye HQL.

I agree with this.

 

[RoadDawg]

Hasn’t the HQL already been challenged and it held up? Maybe that was in the state court so this fed ruling changes things?

SCOTUS rule just obliterated the logic behind the HQL.

As a matter of fact… Maryland has been issuing HQLs to anyone who acquired a CCW permit in this State, without further requirements.

 

[teratos]

So at this point if you have never applied, just do the 16 hour training, then apply minus G&S?

Yes.

I’m sure a suit will be filed in regard to the 16 hour training being onerous

 

[RobSky]

Ok - so what does this mean for us Marylanders. Can I now apply and get a CCW?

I went down this path before, was a PITA. This was like 10 years ago, forget what exactly happened, but there was a mad rush to get CCW, ultimately the rug got pulled out from underneath us. Hopefully, this time it's for real.

 

[teratos]

I went down this path before, was a PITA. This was like 10 years ago, forget what exactly happened, but there was a mad rush to get CCW, ultimately the rug got pulled out from underneath us. Hopefully, this time it's for real.

This was a SCOTUS decision. Not reversible, no appeal. It’s real.

 

[Cruacious]

For those who forgot, all C&R handguns (i.e. those 50 years old or older or declared as C&R by the ATF) can be purchased without an HQL. While this does narrow the pool significantly, there are many good guns from 1972 and earlier that you can buy.

As for the ruling, my interpretation is that the state cannot put an undue burden upon exercising the right to carry a weapon for self defense. Having arbitrary rules such as "just cause" which place a disadvantage on the average person is now strictly prohibited. This logic could open up some really interesting cases against other unpopular restrictions in the future such as magazine capacity limits for some and others. Today really is a great day.

 

[AKbythebay]

My application is ready. I just need prints. I’ll get those Tuesday.

I'm with ya. I may get my prints tomorrow up at the sheriff's office

 

[teratos]

I'm with ya. I may get my prints tomorrow up at the sheriff's office

They do livescan?

 

[AKbythebay]

They do livescan?

I believe so but I'm going to call to check

 

[fabsroman]

Hasn’t the HQL already been challenged and it held up? Maybe that was in the state court so this fed ruling changes things?

HQL was upheld in the US District Court of Maryland. I was there for the oral arguments. However, the US District Court Judge relied on intermediate scrutiny to justify the decision and the state's ability to regulate the 2nd Amendment. Bruen now says that strict scrutiny and intermediate scrutiny are not to be used. The argument on the HQL was whether strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny should be used by the Court. Now, SCOTUS is saying neither should be used. There is no second test to be used to determine if a state should be allowed to limit a Constitutional Right.

 

[Muleskinner]

Great news!

But the pessimist in me thinks the powers that be in MD. are scrutinizing the ruling to find ways to make getting a CCW in Maryland as cumbersome and difficult as possible.

I hope I'm wrong.

Yep...they have been expecting this and have been crafting clever ways to make sure the average person either cannot afford a permit or find the regulations for compliance so cumbersome or hard to comply with that they don't bother.

 

[fabsroman]

I went down this path before, was a PITA. This was like 10 years ago, forget what exactly happened, but there was a mad rush to get CCW, ultimately the rug got pulled out from underneath us. Hopefully, this time it's for real.

How the heck are they going to grant a stay on the decision so that both sides can decide whether to appeal? An appeal to where? God almighty?

 

[outrider58]

As someone once said, "Elections have consequences..."
We won!

 

[Rickman]

As someone once said, "Elections have consequences..."
We won!

Yes. Thank you President Trump.

 

[Uncle Duke]

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What's outrageous is that, in a state with one of the most violent shit hole cities in the country, an elected leader would actively stand against their citizen's right to self defense.

F her, and those like her.

 

[teratos]

What's outrageous is that, in a state with one of the most violent shit hole cities in the country, an elected leader would actively stand against their citizen's right to self defense.

F her, and those like her.

Well said

 

[GutPile]

Shopping time! And I just realized my HQL expires next year.